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  • #16
    Craiger wrote: View Post
    People basically said the same thing about baseball at first though didn't they?

    Sometimes its not always about getting it 'right' as it is about close to 'right'. You can still extract a ton of value from close to right.

    There is alot more to analytics and metrics than PER (which is hardly going to pass as a top choice anyways)
    Fair enough, and it's a good point it probably gives a better understanding of a player especially if you haven't sat there scouting them in person. But I still think at this point you're just as likely to get a Ty Lawson steal as you are to get a Michael Beasley or Jose Calderon, guys who put up numbers but don't actually get you wins.

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    • #17
      Cuban has paid close to 150 million in luxury tax. Ouch!

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      • #18
        Man....what the hell was up with Portland in 02-03???? near 52 million in luxury tax in one year!!!!!!! how does that even happen?

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        • #19
          white men can't jump wrote: View Post
          Man....what the hell was up with Portland in 02-03???? near 52 million in luxury tax in one year!!!!!!! how does that even happen?
          Rk Player Salary
          1 Scottie Pippen $19,727,524
          2 Rasheed Wallace $16,200,000
          3 Shawn Kemp $12,621,028
          4 Damon Stoudamire $12,375,000
          5 Dale Davis $8,055,000
          6 Derek Anderson $7,144,500
          7 Arvydas Sabonis $6,850,000
          8 Bonzi Wells $6,300,000
          9 Ruben Patterson $4,991,800
          10 Antonio Daniels $3,375,000
          11 Jeff McInnis $3,000,000
          12 Zach Randolph $1,095,720
          13 Chris Dudley $1,030,000
          14 Qyntel Woods $980,280
          15 Amal McCaskill $699,935
          16 Charles Smith $637,435
          17 Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje $512,435
          "They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014

          "I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015

          "We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

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          • #20
            yeah that team was so stacked. i don't know how they never won it all those 2-3 years.

            i mean i know WHY but c'mon.
            @sweatpantsjer

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            • #21
              10 000 Hours wrote: View Post
              I don't care if the Raptors pay luxury tax or not because it's not my money. Whatever they are willing to do to win, is up to them.
              +1

              I was thinking the same thing...... who gives a crap if they have to pay luxury tax.....MLSE or BELL or ROGERS makes enough $$$$ ...WHATEVER IT TAKES TO WIN.... you have to spend $$$ if you want to win (long term)

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              • #22
                MLSE green lighted Grunwald to spend a lot of money back at the peak of "Vinsanity". If they ever put something legit together again I'm sure they'll get green lighted to spend up to the threshold but not beyond given the new rules.

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                • #23
                  Isn't the real advantage of spending towards the luxury tax the ability to take risks by giving out bad contracts and then just letting those rot if the risk backfires? Most of the big spenders in the league have always had a crap contract that caused them to go into luxury tax. I don't think its a necessity that the Raps have to go with that approach even if they become contenders.

                  Unless if we are considering giving max contracts to deserving players (like Miami, minus Bosh), but I don't see those guys being available for Toronto unless we draft really well (ie, Val/Ross become mega stars).

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                  • #24
                    Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

                    Assuming Dwight re-signs, rough math for Lakers' guaranteed commitments for '13-'14, first year of super tax: $92M for six players.
                    Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS

                    Based on $75M tax line, Lakers would owe $34.3M in tax for those six players at $92M alone. That's $126M for half a team.
                    Lakers are going to be paying more in tax that 2&3 teams combined! Yikes.
                    Last edited by mcHAPPY; Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:03 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Yeah I saw that tweet. I suppose having 4 veteran All-NBA players isn't, and shouldn't be, cheap...but that's just a little mindbottling. You know, when things are so crazy it gets your thoughts all trapped, like in a bottle.
                      Two beer away from being two beers away.

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                      • #26
                        Man oh man, OKC has got to be PIIIIIIISSSED!!!

                        I beleive the Lakers are one of those teams that can turn a profit no matter how much they are spending.

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                        • #27
                          Team payrolls.

                          Just decided to put up the numbers of the team's payrolls in the league.

                          http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

                          Team Payrolls
                          1. Los Angeles Lakers
                          $97,740,731
                          2. Brooklyn Nets
                          $82,863,544
                          3. Miami Heat
                          $82,629,170
                          4. Orlando Magic
                          $73,312,267
                          5. Philadelphia 76ers
                          $72,705,528
                          6. New York Knicks
                          $68,989,028
                          7. Golden State Warriors
                          $66,699,736
                          8. Detroit Pistons
                          $66,009,791
                          9. Memphis Grizzlies
                          $65,621,568
                          10. Utah Jazz
                          $64,192,721
                          11. San Antonio Spurs
                          $63,687,035
                          12. Washington Wizards
                          $62,043,724
                          13. Los Angeles Clippers
                          $61,619,891
                          14. Dallas Mavericks
                          $61,217,894
                          15. Milwaukee Bucks
                          $60,678,085
                          16. New Orleans Hornets
                          $57,053,630
                          17. Charlotte Bobcats
                          $56,820,187
                          18. Oklahoma City Thunder
                          $56,638,264
                          19. Phoenix Suns
                          $55,856,415
                          20. Toronto Raptors
                          $55,786,355
                          21. Chicago Bulls
                          $55,702,768
                          22. Sacramento Kings
                          $54,886,455
                          23. Atlanta Hawks
                          $53,089,031
                          24. Portland Trail Blazers
                          $53,013,198
                          25. Indiana Pacers
                          $50,530,897
                          26. Denver Nuggets
                          $50,059,814
                          27. Cleveland Cavaliers
                          $48,498,938
                          28. Houston Rockets
                          $48,195,649
                          29. Minnesota Timberwolves
                          $44,513,198
                          30. Boston Celtics
                          $36,512,932
                          Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                          • #28
                            RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
                            Just decided to put up the numbers of the team's payrolls in the league.

                            http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

                            Team Payrolls
                            1. Los Angeles Lakers
                            $97,740,731
                            2. Brooklyn Nets
                            $82,863,544
                            3. Miami Heat
                            $82,629,170
                            4. Orlando Magic
                            $73,312,267
                            5. Philadelphia 76ers
                            $72,705,528
                            6. New York Knicks
                            $68,989,028
                            7. Golden State Warriors
                            $66,699,736
                            8. Detroit Pistons
                            $66,009,791
                            9. Memphis Grizzlies
                            $65,621,568
                            10. Utah Jazz
                            $64,192,721
                            11. San Antonio Spurs
                            $63,687,035
                            12. Washington Wizards
                            $62,043,724
                            13. Los Angeles Clippers
                            $61,619,891
                            14. Dallas Mavericks
                            $61,217,894
                            15. Milwaukee Bucks
                            $60,678,085
                            16. New Orleans Hornets
                            $57,053,630
                            17. Charlotte Bobcats
                            $56,820,187
                            18. Oklahoma City Thunder
                            $56,638,264
                            19. Phoenix Suns
                            $55,856,415
                            20. Toronto Raptors
                            $55,786,355
                            21. Chicago Bulls
                            $55,702,768
                            22. Sacramento Kings
                            $54,886,455
                            23. Atlanta Hawks
                            $53,089,031
                            24. Portland Trail Blazers
                            $53,013,198
                            25. Indiana Pacers
                            $50,530,897
                            26. Denver Nuggets
                            $50,059,814
                            27. Cleveland Cavaliers
                            $48,498,938
                            28. Houston Rockets
                            $48,195,649
                            29. Minnesota Timberwolves
                            $44,513,198
                            30. Boston Celtics
                            $36,512,932
                            These numbers do not include a lot of deals. For example, Boston is over the cap now and Toronto is around $58M (they don't include Gray).

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                            • #29
                              Matt52 wrote: View Post
                              These numbers do not include a lot of deals. For example, Boston is over the cap now and Toronto is around $58M (they don't include Gray).
                              Hmmm. Sorry for the inconvenience Matt, didn't know too sure whether these were updated or not.
                              Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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                              • #30
                                RaptorReuben wrote: View Post
                                Hmmm. Sorry for the inconvenience Matt, didn't know too sure whether these were updated or not.
                                No worries.

                                If you are looking HoopsWorld.com is pretty up to date. Historically HoopsHype.com has been more reliable but of late the nod goes to HW.com.

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