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  • #16
    D West is not going to be hard to replace.
    Attitude Is A Choice.

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    • #17
      ebrian wrote: View Post
      Can you explain how Calderon+DeRozan nets a player like Rudy Gay or James Harden? This sounds interesting to me.

      Why stop there.. let's package Alan Anderson and Amir Johnson for Lebron James.
      That is a bit much to give up. I think we should try to get a 2nd round pick too.

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      • #18
        ebrian wrote: View Post
        Can you explain how Calderon+DeRozan nets a player like Rudy Gay or James Harden? This sounds interesting to me.

        Why stop there.. let's package Alan Anderson and Amir Johnson for Lebron James.

        lol
        I don't think that's unreasonable, especially if we throw in our second rounder and the other team either a) can't afford the players contract (rudy gay) b) the other team is looking for cap flexibility, or c) is shitting the bed this season. This would also depend on how much the raptors brass like or dislike the play of Terrance Ross nearing the deadline.

        Keep in mind we almost netted Chandler and Diaw for Calderon 2 seasons ago. I don't think its that far fetched.

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        • #19
          I am hoping that there will be lots of teams who will be in the position described in the intial post and that the demand for a quality PG will be higher than the supply. I hope that Jose stays a Raptor for his career and we are able to resign him at the conclusion of the season. But I also know that if he can net us a solid piece in a position of need that that should be the priority. We will see.

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          • #20
            codean wrote: View Post
            Keep in mind we almost netted Chandler and Diaw for Calderon 2 seasons ago. I don't think its that far fetched.
            Keep in mind that Calderon wasn't a rental player 2 years ago. Would Memphis be willing to give up Gay for Calderon without a guarantee that he re-signs?

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            • #21
              Nilanka wrote: View Post
              Keep in mind that Calderon wasn't a rental player 2 years ago. Would Memphis be willing to give up Gay for Calderon without a guarantee that he re-signs?
              If Memphis gives up Gay to the Raps, it won't be for Calderon whether he resigned or not.

              It will be for 100% financial.

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              • #22
                tkfu wrote: View Post
                Only problem is that Dallas doesn't have $10 mil in salary that they can send back that the raps would actually want, so a 3rd team would probably have to get involved. So I don't have a good suggestion of how exactly this ends up going down.

                Thoughts?
                ...but you're calling it.
                i8theball.com it's a website...about, you know....basketball.

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                • #23
                  pillowmint wrote: View Post
                  ...but you're calling it.
                  Oh c'mon pillowmint, those are all Technicalities.

                  The Hard part is already done; he IS going to Dallas. Let them figure out to make it work. Geez.

                  (Tongue placed firmly in cheek)
                  Last edited by Joey; Tue Oct 16, 2012, 06:06 PM.

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                  • #24
                    codean wrote: View Post
                    lol
                    I don't think that's unreasonable, especially if we throw in our second rounder and the other team either a) can't afford the players contract (rudy gay) b) the other team is looking for cap flexibility, or c) is shitting the bed this season. This would also depend on how much the raptors brass like or dislike the play of Terrance Ross nearing the deadline.

                    Keep in mind we almost netted Chandler and Diaw for Calderon 2 seasons ago. I don't think its that far fetched.
                    James Harden -IMO we have to add to Jose, Demar.
                    As for Rudy Gay -See what Atlanta got got Joe J. The price for an overpriced borderline all-star was set. Sure JJ makes more (annually than Gay), but JJ was a legit all-star (Gay, almost -big difference).
                    Jose, DD (and maybe Ed) -all 3 at least decent bench/rotation players, is a lot more than Hawks got for JJ.
                    As for Harden -another major difference (wrt Gay) -Even if he gets max deal -still a lot less than Gay or JJ & thus it would likely cost a bid more to acquire than Gay.

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                    • #25
                      joey_hesketh wrote: View Post
                      Oh c'mon pillowmint, those are all Technicalities.

                      The Hard part is already done; he IS going to Dallas. Let them figure out to make it work. Geez.

                      (Tongue placed firmly in cheek)
                      Ooooo! I stand corrected
                      i8theball.com it's a website...about, you know....basketball.

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                      • #26
                        Prior to the season, before Carter's options had been picked-up by Dallas and before Lucas, Anderson and McGuire had been signed by Toronto, I could have seen this as a viable option (ie: Carter & Dahantay Jones & Beaubois for Calderon). Carter could have been released, Jones would be 3rd string defensive-specialist wing (expiring) and Beaubois could have been backup PG (expiring).

                        However, unless a third team can be found to take on at least Carter's salary, I really don't see Dallas as a good fit as a trading partner for Calderon. They have nothing to offer Toronto, aside from expiring contracts - why not just keep Calderon in that case? What is Toronto actually gaining?

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                        • #27
                          CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
                          Prior to the season, before Carter's options had been picked-up by Dallas and before Lucas, Anderson and McGuire had been signed by Toronto, I could have seen this as a viable option (ie: Carter & Dahantay Jones & Beaubois for Calderon). Carter could have been released, Jones would be 3rd string defensive-specialist wing (expiring) and Beaubois could have been backup PG (expiring).

                          However, unless a third team can be found to take on at least Carter's salary, I really don't see Dallas as a good fit as a trading partner for Calderon. They have nothing to offer Toronto, aside from expiring contracts - why not just keep Calderon in that case? What is Toronto actually gaining?
                          Hell no, Carter is staying whether he likes it or not. It's time he's payed a visit to some unhappy fans..

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                          • #28
                            When there were reports of Dallas being interested in Calderon it was before their make-over. The way they have reconstructed their roster, with more athleticism on the perimeter because their bigs, weary old men (30, 33 and 34 years old not counting Wrigth who'll probably see limited minutes when all are healthy), can't cover for slowfooted old guards who can't keep up with the quick ones.

                            The only reason they'd be interested would be if Nowitzki's injury makes them give up on this season and they want more capspace in the summer. This would mean we'd have to take back Marion (which we don't want).

                            I'm calling it off.

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                            • #29
                              So West got reinstated. Everyone settle down.
                              @sweatpantsjer

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                              • #30
                                Dallas has nothing to offer that equals to Calderon, not to mention anything we want, it completely out of range. Mayo is the only guy I can see we can get sorely by trading Calderon+asset+pick.
                                Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.

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