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RaptorReuben wrote: View PostI would take Barnes/Lillard > Ross 10 out of 10 times.
I wanted Ross, but I admitted I didn't think we'd have to go at 8 to get him (who knows in the end). My draft wish list was to trade down (like 12-14...maybe 15 or 16 at the lowest), where I hoped for Ross or Terrence Jones, and then a few other names that I would've been ok with (like Harkless, Lamb....).
I also admit I wasn't big on Lillard. I was way too worried he wouldn't be able to pass the ball well at all. And then I'm not a fan at all of having what's basically a shooting guard play point. He seems to have proven me wrong, though.Last edited by white men can't jump; Mon Mar 4, 2013, 09:20 PM.
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NoPropsneeded wrote: View PostA couple of days before draft night i was looking at Ross and i liked his game so i didn't freak out like most people when we picked him.Twitter - @thekid_it
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Matt52 wrote: View PostIn the draft thread we had going he was mentioned a number of times. Don't think anyone ever thought he would go 8 though so not a lot of attention paid. Also don't think anyone thought the Raps would end up higher than 8 so the Barnes/Lillards etc were fawned over most of the time.
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CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View PostOnce the Raptors are out of the playoff picture (really all season, but I've long since given up on Casey and rebuilding ever being synonymous) I hope that both Valanciunas and Ross are spoon-fed all the minutes they can handle. I expect both of them to make significant improvements next season, while also playing a larger role on this team.
If I were BC, I'd be targeting Millsap in the offseason, to be my 'big splash'. It would require a S&T with Utah to make it happen - based on salary balancing and team needs (both Utah & Toronto), a DeRozan for Millsap trade would seem to make a lot of sense. A Bargnani for Millsap trade is a Toronto pipe-dream, without a 3rd team being involved (much more unlikely).
The second move needs to be trading Bargnani for anything positive/useful that doesn't hurt the team's financial flexibility any more than Bargnani currently does (ie: not Boozer).
The third move is to amnesty Kleiza, assuming he uses his player option.
Those moves would leave the Raptors with a very good, young team:
C: Valanciunas, Gray (expiring)*
PF: Millsap, Johnson, Acy
SF: Gay, Anderson*
SG: Fields, Ross
PG: Lowry, Lucas (expiring)*
* assume the player's option is picked-up (Gray-player & Lucas-team) or is re-signed (Anderson)
The team's biggest needs for the next couple seasons would be (assuming none are addressed by a Bargnani trade):
- veteran backup PG, ideally a pass-first facilitator to get the most out of the team's 2nd unit (Calderon?)
- veteran backup C to replace Gray
- a 4th wing to eventually replace Anderson
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RaptorReuben wrote: View PostI would take Barnes/Lillard > Ross 10 out of 10 times.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostIt was about the fact that we didn't have a chance at Barnes or Lillard. Pretty sure Portland promised they'd draft him. And also when we lost the coin toss to GS, we lost Barnes.
I wanted Ross, but I admitted I didn't think we'd have to go at 8 to get him (who knows in the end). My draft wish list was to trade down (like 12-14...maybe 15 or 16 at the lowest), where I hoped for Ross or Terrence Jones, and then a few other names that I would've been ok with (like Harkless, Lamb....).
I also admit I wasn't big on Lillard. I was way too worried he wouldn't be able to pass the ball well at all. And then I'm not a fan at all of having what's basically a shooting guard play point. He seems to have proven me wrong, though.
Rivers obviously has looked horrible, the other two are buried deep on a team probably headed for the NBA Championships, and then there's Ross. I wasn't big on Lillard either.your pal,
ebrian
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I was high on Lillard, and was really bummed that Portland took him. If we landed Lillard would Bryan still go after Nash and in the mean time get Fields? Would he then have gotten Lowry even though Jose was on the team?
Lillard would have been sweet.. we'd probably still have our 2013 pick (although knowing Bryan, he would have probably sent that to Phoenix for Telfair).
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Pretty much impossible (and pointless) to predict what would have happened. But yea, Lillard looks like the real deal now. Given what was left we didn't end up too badly in the draft. I'm still mad at guys like Ben Uzoh for making us miss out on Harrison Barnes.your pal,
ebrian
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