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i have and always will stand by "bargs is our best chance of 2 points" everytime he has the ball. unless he really doesn't fit in there is no way he is getting traded. 7 footers are getting massive money right now. he would be sent to the bench and unleashed on reserves before he was traded.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostD is a possibility.
But on O that starting lineup had 4 guys who could shoot the 3: Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and R. Wallace.
That was my only point: DD, SMith, ED, and JV can't shoot outside 18 feet consistently..... or at all.
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tkfu wrote: View PostIf you're gonna call Rip Hamilton a 3 point threat, then DeMar is too. Rip shot 26% from 3 in their championship season, and made 18 all year. DeMar shot 26% last season, and made 24. Given the shortened season, that's twice as many per game. Sheed was a a little better, but not much: 31% and 22 threes made on the season.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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tkfu wrote: View PostIf you're gonna call Rip Hamilton a 3 point threat, then DeMar is too. Rip shot 26% from 3 in their championship season, and made 18 all year. DeMar shot 26% last season, and made 24. Given the shortened season, that's twice as many per game. Sheed was a a little better, but not much: 31% and 22 threes made on the season.
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I recall Bargs has never performed fantastically in pre-season, even before his historic 13-game stint I remember him being fairly ordinary during the pre-season. It'll take real games for him to show up, hopefully. No way he goes before Calderon or even one of Ed/Amir.
You don't just replace a 20ppg big especially when you've brought a rim-protector rookie to help hide his deficiencies on defence and the boards.Last edited by playmak3r5; Tue Oct 9, 2012, 10:14 PM.
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playmak3r5 wrote: View PostI recall Bargs has never performed fantastically in pre-season, even before his historic 13-game stint I remember him being fairly ordinary during the pre-season. It'll take real games for him to show up, hopefully. No way he goes before Calderon or even one of Ed/Amir.
You don't just replace a 20ppg big especially when you've brought a rim-protector rookie to help hide his deficiencies on defence and the boards.Twitter: @ReubenJRD • NBA, Raptors writer for Daily Hive Vancouver, Toronto.
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I see DeMar being shipped out before Andrea. The only chance Andrea gets traded is if Ed Davis magically breaks out this season or the next. I don't see it happening.“I don’t create controversies. They’re there long before I open my mouth. I just bring them to your attention.”
-- Charles Barkley
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Fuchan wrote: View PostDamn staight, that would be a dream scenario
Lowry, DeRozan, Smith, ED, and Val. That would be awesome.
When I pretend to be an armchair GM, I want to take it slow and steady, but whenever JS is involved, I always throw that out the window. Being a GM and resisting quick fixes must be hard
Lowry
T. Ross
DD
J. Smith
JV
That would be a ridiculously athletic line up.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostThat was my only point: DD, SMith, ED, and JV can't shoot outside 18 feet consistently..... or at all.
Outside shooting would be a major problem for this group. I also have strong doubts whether ED and JV are currently strong enough to post up on a regular basis.
It would not be a pretty offense.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostYes. Lets look at a group who played together for the better part of 6 seasons and only look at one season. That makes perfect sense. But even if we roll in the cherry picked season, there are still 4 guys in the starting lineup who hit over 30% of the 3 pointers attempted. In this hypothetical Raptor lineup, how many guys are going to hit over 30% of their threes? One? Yes, that is what I was saying originally.
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tkfu wrote: View PostIt wasn't cherry picked; we were talking about the championship Pistons, so we'd better talk about their championship season. And you need to learn to count, my friend: Prince, Billups, and (just barely) Sheed makes three out of the starting lineup that are over 30%. And for the hypothetical raps lineup, you'd have Lowry, Ross (hopefully), and Josh Smith (just barely) all capable of shooting above 30%.
Sheed....: lifetime .337 reg season, on 3159 attempts,,,,, playoffs .352 on 540 attempts
Hamilton.: lifetime .348 reg season, on 1478 attempts,,,,, playoffs .337 on 202 attempts
Billups....: lifetime .389 reg season, on 4587 attempts,,,,, playoffs .367 on 712 attempts
Prince....: lifetime .367 reg season, on 1297 attempts,,,,, playoffs .350 on 277 attempts
JSmoove: lifetime .278 reg season, on 741 attempts,,,,, playoffs .149 on 67 attempts
C'mon man, JSmoove should not be in a conversation about 3 pt shooters.
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