How do I like them apples? You're trying to tell me that Smush Parker and Tyrone Nesby and Quinton Ross are good NBA players. That's not even worth my time to tell you how ridiculous that is. This whole debate started over whether or not JJ will be better than what can be netted at 28ish. And you sorta helped, because I'd MUCH rather have JJ than most of the guys on that list.
I applaud the effort but I still disagree with your argument. Which is fine. I'm allowed.
Nice grown up response, there, pot. So you completely ignored the other 167 players (actually closer to 190 if you add the last 3 seasons) and choose to focus on Smush Parker, Tyrone Nesby and Quinton Ross? Did I really need to cut and paste the bigger list from the basketball-reference, or did you simply choose not to read it?
Cut my list in half and you are still off by an order of magnitude. You just got owned big time, Joey. Your so-called statistical proof just got blown out of the water. Just man up and take it.
Cut my list in half and you are still off by an order of magnitude. You just got owned big time, Joey. Your so-called statistical proof just got blown out of the water. Just man up and take it.
Based on your supplied information, there is a 76% chance the pick never makes it to 3 NBA seasons. Also of the list that did make it to 3 NBA seasons, many have played at the end of the bench or put up a good season or two and disappeared.
The simple math is if you want to include undrafted players then, yes, you are going to have more NBA players available. However, the odds or percentages of success decrease.
Based on logic alone, you shouldn't include undrafted plrayers. The orginal premis was whether you could get a better player than JJ with the Miami pick. You can't use undrafted players in your argument precisely because they were undrafted...you didn't need a pick to get them. You are not really comparing apples to apples.
The real question is are there any pearls in THIS year's draft, apparently Colangelo and his scouting department doesn't think so. Or maybe Colangelo plans to buy a pick off someone on draft day, which would make all this arguing pointless.
("I just got owned"?, "How do I like them Apples"? , "Man up"??
How the [censored] can I have a real conversation with this person?!?)
At this point Golden, it's not really whether I specifically am wrong on the matter. I disagree with the argument. And alot of others here do as well.You are arguing that getting a guy like Smush Parker is a good thing. Or any other scrub thats managed to play 3 measily seasons in the league. I am arguing that a player of James Johnsons caliber will be playing in the league for 10 years+. That is the difference.
So you keep thinking that Tyrone Nesby is going to be our starting SF. And how bout Kevin Ollie to the rescue at PG??
And I will continue to think otherwise.
Done with this.
Based on logic alone, you shouldn't include undrafted plrayers. The orginal premis was whether you could get a better player than JJ with the Miami pick. You can't use undrafted players in your argument precisely because they were undrafted...you didn't need a pick to get them. You are not really comparing apples to apples.
I already tried to argue this. Logically, you'd think this is the case. But Golden disagrees apparently.
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