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slaw wrote: View PostIt passes the initial smell test in that the rankings don't look absurd (other than the odd unexpected name) but it isn't really clear from the article how it's calculated. Just reading the brief summary, it looks like there is a lot of "fuzzy math" involved, which should always raise an eyebrow or two...."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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stooley wrote: View PostI hope the new age of basketball stats isn't made up of stuff that only people with proprietary software can really understand.
One kid I thought was good was John Henson and I wondered why the Bucks weren't giving him more playing time. These stats somewhat answered that question; same with another recent topic of conversation, Ed Davis.
Traditional stats are going to stay, but if we really want to understand why coaches and FO's make some of the decisions they do, stats like these give a better picture, even if we don't 100% understand the methodology.
Read Thibs comments on Taj Gibson in the original article and try to think of any simple stat that would properly pick up his value.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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Letter N wrote: View PostYay more made up stats so people can pretend to know stuff without watching the game.
what good does knowing what happened (i.e. what a traditional box score tells you), if you don't understand how or why (what 'advanced' metrics try to do)?TRUE LOVE - Sometimes you know it the instant you see it across the bar.
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slaw wrote: View PostIt passes the initial smell test in that the rankings don't look absurd (other than the odd unexpected name) but it isn't really clear from the article how it's calculated. Just reading the brief summary, it looks like there is a lot of "fuzzy math" involved, which should always raise an eyebrow or two....TRUE LOVE - Sometimes you know it the instant you see it across the bar.
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I suppose it contributes to the idea that Lowry and Amir are the heart and soul of the team/ make winning plays etc...
numbers aren't my forte though so hopefully some of the more gifted among us will tear this up a bit and show us the gutsFor still frame photograph of me reading the DeRozan thread please refer to my avatar
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Interesting....
ESPN wrote:RPM estimates how many points each player adds or subtracts, on average, to his team's net scoring margin for each 100 possessions played.
Interesting how low DD scored on his ORPM...and how bad Val's ORPM was, as well as Ross' DRPM.
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http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=10757408
This is a podcast featuring Zack Lowe and Kevin Pelton.
It really helped me get a better idea of what rpm is and what it tells us.
Some notes:
-rpm reports on what happened rather than what will happen. if a player is put in a different role, he WILL have different results
-4s that don't stretch the floor or play defence are bad
-big men are much more important to defence, guards are much more important to offence (in top 40 defensive players, only 6 1/2/3, in top 40 offensive players only 9 4/5 (and most have a jump shot))
-from a team building perspective, the player's numbers relative to their position is more important (so an average defender at the 4 is equivalent to a net negative defender at the 2)Last edited by stooley; Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:55 PM."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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enlightenment wrote: View PostLots of fouls = high amount of points in few minutes of play.
And Ive always figured Hansbrough to be an analytic favourite
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