Let me preface this as I have before....Jamal Magloire 2004 all star. Now, with that out of the way, let me put on the rosiest glasses I can find. Our SG is an all star. Our PG was just recognized by many (the coaches, not TNT) as the biggest all star snub...so basically an all star. Our other wing has the hops to win a dunk contest, has the shot to drop 51 and plays solid D. And is a sophomore. Our C is the one player very few if any of us would trade. Our PF is ...pretty good. Do we just ride this out and see where it goes?
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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostI bet if we traded some decent pieces for him (say DD+Salmons), we could pry away 2 of their first rounders because they desperately want the cap space, and yet are getting and -allstar-
From what I have seen this year...his post game is going to take years before it becomes a threat. He lacks balance, footwork, hands, dribbles, shoulder fakes, up and unders. Basically all of the post moves besides an improving drop step into a baby hook and he does have a good touch around the rim. I would much rather see Jonas' development be pushed to improving leg strength and becoming more agile so he can be a better PnR defender (and on offense too), as well as a better help defender. He is also a pretty bad passer out of the post.
I really think we need a power PF, someone who can play back to the basket and attract the double. Amir and Pattman are more stretch 4s, and would make a GREAT pairing on a bench unit with a balance of PnR ability/shooting/defense/mobility/rebounding.
I was on the Monroe idea in the offseason....but Monroe is basically the more offensively savvy version of Amir, so I agree he doesn't really have a fit here.
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Jclaw wrote: View PostLet me preface this as I have before....Jamal Magloire 2004 all star. Now, with that out of the way, let me put on the rosiest glasses I can find. Our SG is an all star. Our PG was just recognized by many (the coaches, not TNT) as the biggest all star snub...so basically an all star. Our other wing has the hops to win a dunk contest, has the shot to drop 51 and plays solid D. And is a sophomore. Our C is the one player very few if any of us would trade. Our PF is ...pretty good. Do we just ride this out and see where it goes?
I realize that there are contractual issues here, but the group we have now like each other, and are GETTING BETTER. Why not see if they can grow into a competitive core?
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BigCamB wrote: View PostI was just looking at a defensive aspect first tbh. Monroe is a really nice passer and would help with the low post scoring you mentioned, but it'd be a nightmare defensively with JV, as would Boozer. JV is getting better defensively very slowly, but it's happening IMO, I don't really care what any analytics say, I can see with my own eyes that he is getting better, but still has a long way to go. That's why I like Amir and 2Pat, both really nice help defenders, smart etc and very mobile. Offensively you never see JV and Amir get tangled (apart from that funny occasion last game where amir went with a "cn tower hook" and jv was running trying to get away from him), i like their spacing. Of course the team can upgrade from Amir/2Pat, they'd be amazing as a bench pairing, but every player on the raptors can be upgraded, even my two fav sophomores . Who did you have in mind for the PF?
Also like Chuck Hayes said, it takes 4 or 5 years to learn how to defend the post and make the reads. He just needs time and as long as there is improvement then everything will work out.
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BigCamB wrote: View PostI was just looking at a defensive aspect first tbh. Monroe is a really nice passer and would help with the low post scoring you mentioned, but it'd be a nightmare defensively with JV, as would Boozer. JV is getting better defensively very slowly, but it's happening IMO, I don't really care what any analytics say, I can see with my own eyes that he is getting better, but still has a long way to go. That's why I like Amir and 2Pat, both really nice help defenders, smart etc and very mobile. Offensively you never see JV and Amir get tangled (apart from that funny occasion last game where amir went with a "cn tower hook" and jv was running trying to get away from him), i like their spacing. Of course the team can upgrade from Amir/2Pat, they'd be amazing as a bench pairing, but every player on the raptors can be upgraded, even my two fav sophomores . Who did you have in mind for the PF?
But I want Al Horford. Dude's been forced to play out of position his whole career. He's so solid across the board as a two-way player. Great team and individual defender. Solid rebounder. Sound offence. Good passing. Great leadership. Can play both big spots.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostI know you're not asking me, and it's just a pipe dream....
But I want Al Horford. Dude's been forced to play out of position his whole career. He's so solid across the board as a two-way player. Great team and individual defender. Solid rebounder. Sound offence. Good passing. Great leadership. Can play both big spots."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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BallaBalla wrote: View PostI like this argument. I've been saying all year that we don't really know what we have, so why force ourselves to make a decision? This is what BC did.
I realize that there are contractual issues here, but the group we have now like each other, and are GETTING BETTER. Why not see if they can grow into a competitive core?
Would LOOOVE to have Horford at the 4. His boob makes me nervous though.
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white men can't jump wrote: View PostI know you're not asking me, and it's just a pipe dream....
But I want Al Horford. Dude's been forced to play out of position his whole career. He's so solid across the board as a two-way player. Great team and individual defender. Solid rebounder. Sound offence. Good passing. Great leadership. Can play both big spots.
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If only Portland had to continue struggling, then maybe Aldridge could have been a possibility. Right now, I don't think he is leaving the Blazers anytime soon...but I dream of a lineup like this:
JV/Amir
Aldridge/2Pat
Chandler/draft pick
Demar/Ross
Lowry/Vasquez
That's a solid 10 man rotation, and would probably be a contender I think.
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joey_hesketh wrote: View PostExcept their pick is now very likely not even Lottery. And had we given them an All-Star, they'd be even better than they are now .. not worth it."Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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