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Camby saga - buyout details in post #100
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I would be surprised if Ujiri agrees to a buyout. There are been rumors that Ujiri is unwilling to use the amnesty on Kleiza because he views it as a waste of an asset. I don't see this situation any differently. Buying him out does nothing for the Raptors. I think he will either be traded this summer or held on until the trade deadline where he basically will function as an expiring contract.
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I guess he's still mad at the raptors for trading him for oak. Alonzo 2.0. I expected more from him, I thought he would be gracious enough to play a player-assistant coach type of role like juwan howard, since his career started here. maybe he could mentor jonas defensively.
at least we still have novak, who's happy to be here, and is guaranteed to be of use. ship this bums ass outta here for 2nd round picks. we don't need him.
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2KJ wrote: View PostI guess he's still mad at the raptors for trading him for oak. Alonzo 2.0. I expected more from him, I thought he would be gracious enough to play a player-assistant coach type of role like juwan howard, since his career started here. maybe he could mentor jonas defensively.
at least we still have novak, who's happy to be here, and is guaranteed to be of use. ship this bums ass outta here for 2nd round picks. we don't need him.If Your Uncle Jack Helped You Off An Elephant, Would You Help Your Uncle Jack Off An Elephant?
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Shantz wrote: View PostI would be surprised if Ujiri agrees to a buyout. There are been rumors that Ujiri is unwilling to use the amnesty on Kleiza because he views it as a waste of an asset. I don't see this situation any differently. Buying him out does nothing for the Raptors. I think he will either be traded this summer or held on until the trade deadline where he basically will function as an expiring contract.
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Apollo wrote: View PostYou know, in some ways this trade is reminiscent of the Vince Carter trade. Some serviceable players coming to Toronto, picks and a former star big man who has no intentions of suiting up:
Source: NY Post
How are you going to feel if they buyout Camby, who is owed $7.6M?
Raps have leverage:
1) try to find trade,
2) save money on buyout,
3) tell him to be a good soldier and they'll trade him before deadline OR release him by March 1st so he can join playoff team.
If he doesn't like these options, he can give up money or sit at home suspended without pay (still counts on Raps books though).
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It's bad timing for Camby to think this way, because the Raptors are heading into a season that won't matter a whole lot. We're not exactly in a desperate situation where a guy like Camby holding out on us would be something that hangs a dark cloud over the team.
The other part of this is that he's not exactly at a point in his career where you think OH GAWD I WISH H3 WERE PLAYING 4 US, and the reality is there probably aren't that many "contending" desperate for his services either.
On the other hand do you really want someone with this kind of attitude mentoring JV? I don't. Send him to Olajuwon's camp if you want him to learn.your pal,
ebrian
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ebrian wrote: View PostIt's bad timing for Camby to think this way, because the Raptors are heading into a season that won't matter a whole lot. We're not exactly in a desperate situation where a guy like Camby holding out on us would be something that hangs a dark cloud over the team.
The other part of this is that he's not exactly at a point in his career where you think OH GAWD I WISH H3 WERE PLAYING 4 US, and the reality is there probably aren't that many "contending" desperate for his services either.
On the other hand do you really want someone with this kind of attitude mentoring JV? I don't. Send him to Olajuwon's camp if you want him to learn.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostOr just spend the summer working with Sabonis once Summer League is over.
Edit: I meant for the NBA. I'm sure Sabonis is helping out with the Lithuanian team or something like that (as opposed to sitting at home and watching tv all day).Last edited by ebrian; Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:09 AM.your pal,
ebrian
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ebrian wrote: View PostSure, if you think that would be useful. I'd rather him just watch Sabonis tape. Sabonis isn't doing too much these days, while Olajuwon has devoted his time to teaching young big men. There's something to be said about learning from an expert vs learning from an expert who has spent the last 7 years training others. Of course I take it all back if Sabonis has been doing the same thing.. I didn't find any evidence of this.
Edit: I meant for the NBA. I'm sure Sabonis is helping out with the Lithuanian team or something like that (as opposed to sitting at home and watching tv all day).
I think you are over valuing Hakeem's sessions with others and undervaluing Sabonis' knowledge.
Sabonis works very closely with the Lithuanian national team and JV.
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Maybe you mean amnesty does not count but that doesn't apply to him, obviously it counts against the cap or teams would use it to get out of contracts all the time, what are you smoking?Change the name...Give this city and this country something we can be PROUD of... something we can EMBRACE... something that REPRESENTS us... Please MLSE any name except Raptors...anything, please?
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If we can buy him out for 1 mill or less I say do it. He's not worth the 3-4 mill that we'd have to pay him. In talent or cap space."They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014
"I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015
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