You all know how I feel about Lowry, but Lowry is at least worth the 12th pick.
At the time it was a horrible decision because BC was basically saying he had enough confidence in Lowry to give away the 4th overall pick. You win some, you lose some. Look at the past 7 years and you'll see why stupid decisions like this end up killing you.
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Official: Raps finish 12th - Was Lowry worth it?
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Balls of Steel wrote: View PostLowry is very much worth it. God I defend him so much. Show up in camp 15 lbs. lighter, gamble less on D and be more agressive to create your own shot - he'll be good again!
If not, Eric Bledsoe would be really nice here. Like really nice.
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Lowry is very much worth it. God I defend him so much. Show up in camp 15 lbs. lighter, gamble less on D and be more agressive to create your own shot - he'll be good again!
If not, Eric Bledsoe would be really nice here. Like really nice.
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I just don't see. GM's don't take chances on small point guards in the top 3.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLillard went 6th and is ROY. Draft placing is not necessarily indicative of talent or impact in the league. Draftexpress has him at 6 after being 17 just 6 weeks ago. Moving higher is not out of the question.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLillard went 6th and is ROY. Draft placing is not necessarily indicative of talent or impact in the league. Draftexpress has him at 6 after being 17 just 6 weeks ago. Moving higher is not out of the question.
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Chr1s1anL wrote: View PostBurke would have to have like crazy workouts to get up in the top 3. I just can't see that happening. He reminds me a lot of D.J. Augustin. When he was coming out of Texas. Good shooter, high ball I.Q. but nothing separate himself physically.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLowry and Burke's game are nothing alike. In the draft you take the best talent. PG is also a very big position of need in Toronto. Burke is on a rookie deal for 4 seasons which means the Raptors would have his rights for up to 8. See how Eric Bledsoe has worked out with the Clippers.
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There's a couple problems with the original question:
Primarily, it assumes that had the Lowry trade not occurred, we would still have finished in the exact same position in the standings. And that's impossible to assume. Maybe Calderon excels, the team is in playoff contention, and BC feels he needs to extend Calderon's contract rather than trading him. Or maybe Calderon goes down under the heavy workload, and Lucas ends up being our starter for most of the season, and the Raptors get a top 3 pick.
And given that this was a rebuilding year, I think the only real question is Lowry's long-term value to the team, which will hinge largely on the terms of Lowry's next contract and his performance under it. I was and still am entirely in favour of the Lowry trade, and if you want to reduce to a simple equation then yes, Lowry > 2013 12th overall pick.
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Matt52 wrote: View PostLowry and Burke's game are nothing alike. In the draft you take the best talent. PG is also a very big position of need in Toronto. Burke is on a rookie deal for 4 seasons which means the Raptors would have his rights for up to 8. See how Eric Bledsoe has worked out with the Clippers.
Weak players shy away from competition.... You should always be prepared for competition (from within your team and from other teams).
The last 2 drafts had PGs selected with #1 picks.
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In a vacuum it's a pretty good deal. The chances of getting a better player than Lowry at #12 in this particular draft are low.
Big picture wise I still have my doubts however. The reports of him clashing with Casey and "not making any friends in Toronto" are concerning, especially since he's already worn out his welcome in two other cities. And at the end of the day he was an inconsistent piece on a 34 win team.
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