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  • Nilanka
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    LBF wrote: View Post
    WHY.Do you want to trade away our best player?? Especially, after he just.fucking.said. "I look forward to playing a full season with the raptors"!?

    I don't understand this obsession with blowing it up...This team has not made the playoffs since 07-08 and has not been good since the prior season. Not to mention, we finally get a star wing player which we have not had since 2004. And you just want to throw that all away and start the rebuld over, on at BEST.A 25% chance that we get a highly-touted PROSPECT. There is everything that screams avoiding a fire sale and re-rebuild at all costs. Yet, there just seems to be this obsession that we should re-build again. You're going to put that much trust in ONE man??

    Based on what? One really good trade and an executive of the year award?

    If anything.. Colangelo proved that wrong.

    It's ridiculous to put that much faith and trust in a guy with such a small sample size. For fuck sakes, I damn well hope Ujiri is different. Nut, I will believe it when I see it.
    It's the never-ending "win now" vs. "tank" debate.

    Although Gay is currently our best player, it's yet to be determined if he's good enough for a championship team. If Lieweke/Ujiri's goal is to win championships, it makes sense that they wouldn't be attached to Gay (or anyone really).

    As for the 25% chance of winning the lottery, if what the pundits say is true (that there are 5-8 potential allstars in the 2014 draft), then the probability of landing a top-8 pick would be far greater than 25%.

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  • LBF
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    magoon wrote: View Post



    1. If Dwight has made his decision but isn't announcing yet, it's because the team in question has to make room for him - which means it's one of Golden State, Houston or Dallas, and probably one of the first two considering that Dallas can just release or stretch somebody and instantly make room for Dwight.

    2. Once Dwight announces, Josh Smith and Andre Iguodala (the two most desirable remaining unrestricted free agents) will likely come to terms with teams in the next 48 hours after that. Maybe a little longer if they decide to go to Houston and Houston has to work out a deal with somebody to make more room.

    3. Once Smith and Iggy announce, Rudy Gay becomes the premium small forward potentially available to teams that want to contend.

    4. Once Smith and Iggy announce, teams will start looking seriously at the remaining top RFAs available: Brandon Jennings, Nikola Pekovic and Jeff Teague.

    5. O.J. Mayo and Monta Ellis should sign in the week following Dwight's announcement as second-tier free agents. (Paul Millsap and JJ Hickson are at this level too.)

    6. Once Jennings and Teague sign, Kyle Lowry becomes the premium point guard potentially available to teams that want to contend.

    7. Once Mayo and Ellis sign, DeMar DeRozan becomes probably the premium shooting guard available to teams that want to contend (given his excellent reputation around the league, at least).

    Things are going to get very interesting very fast, I think.
    WHY.Do you want to trade away our best player?? Especially, after he just.fucking.said. "I look forward to playing a full season with the raptors"!?

    I don't understand this obsession with blowing it up...This team has not made the playoffs since 07-08 and has not been good since the prior season. Not to mention, we finally get a star wing player which we have not had since 2004. And you just want to throw that all away and start the rebuld over, on at BEST.A 25% chance that we get a highly-touted PROSPECT. There is everything that screams avoiding a fire sale and re-rebuild at all costs. Yet, there just seems to be this obsession that we should re-build again. You're going to put that much trust in ONE man??

    Based on what? One really good trade and an executive of the year award?

    If anything.. Colangelo proved that wrong.

    It's ridiculous to put that much faith and trust in a guy with such a small sample size. For fuck sakes, I damn well hope Ujiri is different. Nut, I will believe it when I see it.

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  • Puffer
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    god would he just get it over with already jesus christ i hate dwight howard
    Man...just because he is having trouble with "The Decision!"

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  • ceez
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    god would he just get it over with already jesus christ i hate dwight howard

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  • magoon
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    Axel wrote: View Post
    Millsap isn't that low down.
    I think he is - not because he isn't good (he is), but because there aren't that many teams who have a hole at power forward this year, and most of them are bad: Phoenix, Sacramento, Orlando, Charlotte. Maybe Portland if they trade Aldridge. He's not going to get a lot of attention from the wide market.

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  • Jclaw
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    this might be how fast things go. it should be interesting

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  • planetmars
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    Dwight is a huge domino, but it doesn't mean Rudy Gay and DD are now available. MU has refused to show his cards. He could tank (trade Gay) or re-tool (trade DD - as an example) or stay put (which is very highly unlikely IMO).

    And MU could still take a month to decide on what he wants to do. He seems to be a very patient man, which I actually admire but it is also very frustrating when you are a fan.

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  • Axel
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    Millsap isn't that low down.

    Also, I don't think it means that it's those teams necessarily, I think Dwight likes the attention of leaving everyone waiting.

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  • magoon
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    The free agency sweepstakes are going to pick up really fast this weekend




    1. If Dwight has made his decision but isn't announcing yet, it's because the team in question has to make room for him - which means it's one of Golden State, Houston or Dallas, and probably one of the first two considering that Dallas can just release or stretch somebody and instantly make room for Dwight.

    2. Once Dwight announces, Josh Smith and Andre Iguodala (the two most desirable remaining unrestricted free agents) will likely come to terms with teams in the next 48 hours after that. Maybe a little longer if they decide to go to Houston and Houston has to work out a deal with somebody to make more room.

    3. Once Smith and Iggy announce, Rudy Gay becomes the premium small forward potentially available to teams that want to contend.

    4. Once Smith and Iggy announce, teams will start looking seriously at the remaining top RFAs available: Brandon Jennings, Nikola Pekovic and Jeff Teague.

    5. O.J. Mayo and Monta Ellis should sign in the week following Dwight's announcement as second-tier free agents. (Paul Millsap and JJ Hickson are at this level too.)

    6. Once Jennings and Teague sign, Kyle Lowry becomes the premium point guard potentially available to teams that want to contend.

    7. Once Mayo and Ellis sign, DeMar DeRozan becomes probably the premium shooting guard available to teams that want to contend (given his excellent reputation around the league, at least).

    Things are going to get very interesting very fast, I think.

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  • Bendit
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    Mediumcore wrote: View Post
    Masai has been pretty quiet since the Bargnanni trade. Haven't heard a peep out of Utah and its two big free agents either other than interest from Charlotte towards Big Al. Naturally I'm thinking a trade is brewing. DeMar and Amir for some combination of AJ, PM, EK and DF.
    As mentioned in another thread there are some free agents who need to settle (eg. Howard, Josh Smith, Iggy) before the lesser (eg, DD, Gay) will seriously be discussed. Those who miss out on the former will try and spend their money on the lesser.

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  • Mediumcore
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    Masai has been pretty quiet since the Bargnanni trade. Haven't heard a peep out of Utah and its two big free agents either other than interest from Charlotte towards Big Al. Naturally I'm thinking a trade is brewing. DeMar and Amir for some combination of AJ, PM, EK and DF.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Rapstor4Life wrote: View Post
    So if Chicago Amnesties Boozer can Raps pick him up?
    Not unless he clears amnesty wire and is happy with exception or minimum.

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  • Rapstor4Life
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    So if Chicago Amnesties Boozer can Raps pick him up?

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  • drunkmunky
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    Sam17 wrote: View Post
    He almost re-injured Valanciunas' hand
    The fact that Vogul brought him back into the game pissed me off more than his initial bought of tard.

    Honestly though, he's REALLY good at pissing people off. That's an asset.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/0...s-the-numbers/

    Interesting read for any statically inclined people.

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