Signs Of Tanking?

[EuroBaller]

Most of the outside media i have read says that the Raptors will be tanking next season and its only a matter of time before Ujiri will dismantle the team. Personally, i don't see how they came to this conclusion before we even see this team on the court. So im curious if maybe i am missing something? What leads them to think that the Raps will be aiming for lottery balls? (I havent seen any indication) I also wanted to pose the question: When do you know that the Raptors will be going in the opposite direction and what signs make you come to that realization? (ie. Trading Rudy/Demar)

[lilmamba_]

I dont think poeple think the raps are going to tank, i think its more of a ''the raptors should tank'' or a ''I want the raptors to tank''

[Miekenstien]

I dont think poeple think the raps are going to tank,

they just think we are bad

[A_magic_head]

they just think we are bad

Pretty much.

[isaacthompson]

"Most of the outside media"? Probably need to provide some sources for this one buddy.

If it's ESPN or anything like that, I wouldn't listen.

[Xixak]

I saw a dude dressed in full military gear the other day.

Pretty sure that means we're tanking.

[lilmamba_]

let me give you this, the day ross starts.. consider its a tank

[lilmamba_]

"Most of the outside media"? Probably need to provide some sources for this one buddy.

If it's ESPN or anything like that, I wouldn't listen.

or if its TSN or sportsnet, they dont know anything either.. atleast they dont care

[EuroBaller]

"Most of the outside media"? Probably need to provide some sources for this one buddy.

If it's ESPN or anything like that, I wouldn't listen.

Sorry about not citing a source but I just keep reading this from all of the article links on the RR homepage. Specifically, all the power rankings i read seem to think the Raptors will be in rebuilding mode (Bleacherreport especially) not that they know any better but i just thought that maybe they see some sort of signal that ive missed...

[The Great One]

It's simple. They don't know what they're talking about. Not a surprise really.

[Xixak]

Tankers, Just Wanna Point Something Out

There's already a 4 lottery picks on this team:

Jonas Valanciunas - 5th -2011
Terrence Ross - 8th - 2012
Rudy Gay - 8th - 2006
DeMar DeRozan - 9th - 2009


So I just want an explanation for how tanking is guaranteed to yield better players than those. That's all.

[Doc]

There's already a 4 lottery picks on this team:

Jonas Valanciunas - 5th -2011
Terrence Ross - 8th - 2012
Rudy Gay - 8th - 2006
DeMar DeRozan - 9th - 2009


So I just want an explanation for how tanking is guaranteed to yield better players than those. That's all.

No need to have yet another thread referring to tanking, so I merged yours with yesterday's "tanking" reference.

[chris]

There's already a 4 lottery picks on this team:

Jonas Valanciunas - 5th -2011
Terrence Ross - 8th - 2012
Rudy Gay - 8th - 2006
DeMar DeRozan - 9th - 2009


So I just want an explanation for how tanking is guaranteed to yield better players than those. That's all.

don't forget augustin, hansborough, and daye (1 pick out).

team is loaded with top shelf talent. now we just sit on it and let the playoff wins roll in for years to come.

[JimiCliff]

Most of the outside media i have read says that the Raptors will be tanking next season and its only a matter of time before Ujiri will dismantle the team. Personally, i don't see how they came to this conclusion before we even see this team on the court. So im curious if maybe i am missing something? What leads them to think that the Raps will be aiming for lottery balls? (I havent seen any indication) I also wanted to pose the question: When do you know that the Raptors will be going in the opposite direction and what signs make you come to that realization? (ie. Trading Rudy/Demar)

Of everything I've read, the only consensus tank teams so far are Philly, Utah and Orlando. Most seem to think Boston will join them at some point, and Charlotte are probably bad enough to be considered tanking in spite of the fact that they added a fairly decent free agent (which is kind of hilarious).

But I think that Masai has positioned us to tank, simply because none of the players he added move the needle much in terms of making the team better right now. If he was really interested in improving the team for next year, he probably could have used the mid-level* to go out and get some kind of upgrade. Like Colangelo would always do**.

So as it stands, we're a Rudy Gay trade away from tanking. And I'm fully expecting a mid-season Gay trade.

*If we had a mid-level.

**Or at least, Colangelo thought he was upgrading, but it turned out he never was.

[lilmamba_]

don't forget augustin, hansborough, and daye (1 pick out).

team is loaded with top shelf talent. now we just sit on it and let the playoff wins roll in for years to come.