RaptorsHQ: Kyle Lowry - The Enigma Part Deux

[drunkmunky]

For a moment there I saw the title of the thread as:

Kyle Lowry - The Enema

[kuntrykong]

Since Chris Paul is just waiting for the starting PG spot to open up on the Toronto Raptors roster before he demands a trade, we should probably release Lowry right away.

this comment combined with your avatar actually had me laughing for a good while there

[jimmie]

All Mike James did is score? His not the best rebounder PG in the league. His not top 15 on steals. Lowry got injured and he came he was given back his starting role. I don't think Houston wanted either of them. Between all three teams (Houston, PHX and Tor) I believe we got the best PG.

Haha! I agree that we got the best of Lin/Dragic/Lowry. That's a far statement from saying that Lowry is the guy on a meaningful playoff team.

[Chr1s1anL]

LOL. He took Lowry's job for a time, same as Jose, and Houston wanted him back more than they wanted Lowry back. Phoenix seems to like him quite a bit, and he put up comparable numbers to Lowry's career best there last year. Not sure what that says about Lowry. And suggesting that it's impossible for a player to "fill out the stat sheet and not contribute to winning" is also pretty rich.

For that one, Mike James, among many others, says "hi".

The point is, it's not clear-cut that Lowry can be a legit starter on a playoff team.

All Mike James did is score? His not the best rebounder PG in the league. His not top 15 on steals. Lowry got injured and he came he was given back his starting role. I don't think Houston wanted either of them. Between all three teams (Houston, PHX and Tor) I believe we got the best PG.

[Rapstor4Life]

LOL. He took Lowry's job for a time, same as Jose, and Houston wanted him back more than they wanted Lowry back. Phoenix seems to like him quite a bit, and he put up comparable numbers to Lowry's career best there last year. Not sure what that says about Lowry. And suggesting that it's impossible for a player to "fill out the stat sheet and not contribute to winning" is also pretty rich.

For that one, Mike James, among many others, says "hi".

The point is, it's not clear-cut that Lowry can be a legit starter on a playoff team.

He took Lowry's job because he got hurt... and before he was shut down for the season while playing injured he was killing Dragics stats.

[jimmie]

From the bench I know.

LOL. He took Lowry's job for a time, same as Jose, and Houston wanted him back more than they wanted Lowry back. Phoenix seems to like him quite a bit, and he put up comparable numbers to Lowry's career best there last year. Not sure what that says about Lowry. And suggesting that it's impossible for a player to "fill out the stat sheet and not contribute to winning" is also pretty rich.

For that one, Mike James, among many others, says "hi".

The point is, it's not clear-cut that Lowry can be a legit starter on a playoff team.

[Chr1s1anL]

Goran Dragic says "hi".

From the bench I know.

[Mediumcore]

Hey, you mock, but i actually believe that at some point something like that will happen for Toronto.

At some point is a very broad timeline. At the moment Lowry is better than any option available to us. Lets hope the trade deadline is good to us.

[jimmie]

Before he came here he was a starting point on a plus .500 team in Houston for two years straight. Only reason he hasn't been playoff is cause the west is so tough. Thier is no way you can fill out the stat sheet and not contribute to winning. You guys need to relax. Lowry is a starter in this league.

Goran Dragic says "hi".

[Chr1s1anL]

Lowry is an example, for me at least, of a guy who is productive but doesn't really help his team in the W-L column. They aren't necessarily empty stats (i.e. Ricky Davis) but he just never seems to have a big impact on a game in terms of winning/losing.

I'm not sure he's an enigma, though. His numbers the last 3 seasons have been very consistent. He had a slight drop in his shooting percentages last season but it doesn't appear to be a trend. What we saw last season was pretty much what Kyle Lowry is. You'd anticipate him having a big season in his contract year but it could be that 13/7/5 is what you get out of him for the rest of his prime.

Before he came here he was a starting point on a plus .500 team in Houston for two years straight. Only reason he hasn't been playoff is cause the west is so tough. Thier is no way you can fill out the stat sheet and not contribute to winning. You guys need to relax. Lowry is a starter in this league.

[Superjudge]

you cant tank with 10 day contract guys down the stretch...they have too much to play for.

[ezz_bee]

Yes but the winning culture we created that season is what drove us to make the playoffs last year.

[p00ka]

Damn I wish we'd have seen the raps struggle more a couple years ago...how good does Lillard look now?

The crazy thing is, BC actually tried his best to have the team tank that year. With JV stashed in Europe, he fills out the team with a slew of 1 year scrub rentals, but Casey gets the mish-mash team to play great defense, and the Nets even out tank the Raps while Uzoh goes for a triple double that game with a 7 man line-up of him, Alan Anderson, James Johnson, Ed Davis, Magloire, Gary Forbes, and Alabi. LOL, who the hell expects to win by 30 with that line-up? Sometimes you can try your best to tank, yet it doesn't work.

[slaw]

I know one season doesn't define a players career but there's plenty of similar stories in his past. A history of injuries. Documented clashes with coaches. Questions about conditioning. I know the stats are capable of being very impressive but all of this stuff matters to me too. Especially when you're staring down the barrel of extending this guy for close to $10 million this summer.

I would be absolutely stunned if Lowry is with Toronto next year.

[Superjudge]

Since Chris Paul is just waiting for the starting PG spot to open up on the Toronto Raptors roster before he demands a trade, we should probably release Lowry right away.

Hey, you mock, but i actually believe that at some point something like that will happen for Toronto.