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It is similar in that he exploded with his new team and had a year left on his rookie deal. That's where the comparison ends though. He hadn't shown nearly as much as Harden did in OKC, making it a riskier deal. Which is exactly how he fell into PHX's lap, because they didn't care about risk with the possibility they could end up tanking, while other teams were probably reluctant to meet LAC's demands (don't anyone suggest that a frontline of the Morris twins, Plumlee and PJ Tucker was something they realistically thought would help power them to wins). The Clippers couldn't find the ideal trade partner, so they had to settle for a 3 team deal giving them 2 role players. That is not the same asking price OKC had for Harden -> expiring contract that can help now (Martin), a young piece that could help later (Lamb), 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder.....compared to Redick and Dudley. But yeah, the trades are like the same.
And it happened as part of a 3-team deal where Redick was also sent to LAC. So PHX wasn't really in a great position to make a deal, and were greatly helped by Milwaukee willingly stepping in to help. It is also rare that a 3rd team will help you make a deal without also getting a big piece back (ie like Howard/Bynum/Iggy all moving in the same deal).
Again these trades are extremely rare where you can get a young guy with top tier potential without giving up much (even Bledsoe had not shown as much potential on offence as on D, and while he's scoring the ball well, he's also averaging a terrible ast/TO ratio, and without Dragic their O would look real ugly at times). The fact that you found a single other example that isn't even that similar doesn't really convince me otherwise.
And just to put in perspective again since these names are in a post a bit up
...Deron Williams, Carmelo Anthony, Dwight Howard, even KG and Ray Allen, etc
**JUst to add something. I don't think Toronto shouldn't try to position themselves to make offers on such players, but that hoping for such a trade is hoping for an even smaller chance to build your team than simply taking a step backward for a year or two to draft one or two possibly great players. In fact doing so can even help your chances of accomplishing such a deal. The more young pieces you have the better, so that making a trade doesn't necessarily gut your team. You don't have to luck into the very top. Even another top 6-8 pick in this draft could greatly help the Raps by adding a piece to either keep or trade.
Another young piece or two would be putting in Toronto in the best position to make these deals, while also possibly negating the need altogether to seek such a trade if they do get lucky in the draft. As it stands now, the pieces Toronto would have to give up would likely make any trade lateral.
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