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[Doc]

Few things....

1. Mango is right. One thing I have grown to enjoy about this forum, morse so than the last I was on, was that guys here DO get it. They do treat it like its 5-10 buddies at a bar, or in a RecRoom drinking beer, watching hoops, and talking shit. Its great. Because when you can say to a guy "thats just fucking awful, youre insane" and have him tell you to go to hell, but have both understand it is what it is, shit talk for fun.....then thats when you get an authentic experience.

Anyone watch "The League"? THAT is what it should be like.

Anyhow. I should be a high level moderator.

I am quite awesome.

Well at least you're modest.

[Superjudge]

Wow. Really? The only posts I saw from Matt that may have been considered "objectionable" were in reply to "objectionable" ones directed at him.

I shall miss his posts...they were almost always informative and researched. Hope everyone can calm down and end the spat whatever it is.

Ya, I agree, that dude was getting hammered. But, consider this, forums can become addictive and thought consuming. Sometimes they run their course.... he wasn't innocent, but, the return negativity, stuff I would assume 2 years ago he would have handled fine.... he couldnt.

It happens. Dude just needs time away from all this shit.

[Superjudge]

"Treat this place like you're at bar with your buddies and shooting the shit. You're not always gonna agree with each other, but you have one common goal - a passion for the Raptors. Each person has an idea of how to better them. No one is right, yet no one is wrong, but at the end of the day, you don't take anything to heart and you move forward."

Few things....

1. Mango is right. One thing I have grown to enjoy about this forum, morse so than the last I was on, was that guys here DO get it. They do treat it like its 5-10 buddies at a bar, or in a RecRoom drinking beer, watching hoops, and talking shit. Its great. Because when you can say to a guy "thats just fucking awful, youre insane" and have him tell you to go to hell, but have both understand it is what it is, shit talk for fun.....then thats when you get an authentic experience.

Anyone watch "The League"? THAT is what it should be like.

Anyhow. I should be a high level moderator.

I am quite awesome.

[Superjudge]

Those numbers are mild in comparison to afternoons and evenings here. Right now we're averaging about 175 to 200 registered members that login daily with a range of 85 to 110 active at any moment during peaks periods throughout each day. Guests, are normally anywhere between 1000 to 2000 per day. Those numbers aren't entirely accurate though because alot of those guests are bots that cycle through their rotation of websites collecting interweb information. That being said, a solid number of those guests are just that. Alot of fans are just lurkers, while others are loyal to other Raptors message boards and just peruse other fan sites for shits and giggles.

At the end of the day we've come along way from when this forum started up a couple years back, but overall I think the fans like what they see here. Some have begun to compare us to the RealGM Raptors board and as some might take that as an insult, I take it as a compliment. They still are the benchmark in my opinion to message boards when it comes to Raptors fan forums.

Traffic here went up exponentially when I came here and you know it.

You get the best, you get the hits.... thats the game baby.

[CalgaryRapsFan]

Yeah, I must have missed the day(s) of drama. I saw a bit of back and forth, but for a while there Matt reigned it in quite a bit in response.

Anyway, maybe this was discussed but was a short-term suspension ever proposed as opposed to an outright ban? Not only for Matt - if a few members get overheated, a 1-4 week suspension would give them plenty of opportunity to cool off and get some perspective before unloading an eternal ban.

But thanks for the info mods - appreciate the work you do here and the effort you evidently invested in trying to resolve this situation.

Without getting into too much detail about any one poster, in various cases steps were taken and/or offered. The end result is what it is, as Doc expressed.

I suggest sending Doc a PM if you (anybody) have any further questions.


Cheers,
CRF

[S.R.]

Wow. Really? The only posts I saw from Matt that may have been considered "objectionable" were in reply to "objectionable" ones directed at him.

I shall miss his posts...they were almost always informative and researched. Hope everyone can calm down and end the spat whatever it is.

Yeah, I must have missed the day(s) of drama. I saw a bit of back and forth, but for a while there Matt reigned it in quite a bit in response.

Anyway, maybe this was discussed but was a short-term suspension ever proposed as opposed to an outright ban? Not only for Matt - if a few members get overheated, a 1-4 week suspension would give them plenty of opportunity to cool off and get some perspective before unloading an eternal ban.

But thanks for the info mods - appreciate the work you do here and the effort you evidently invested in trying to resolve this situation.

[Bendit]

Wow. Really? The only posts I saw from Matt that may have been considered "objectionable" were in reply to "objectionable" ones directed at him.

I shall miss his posts...they were almost always informative and researched. Hope everyone can calm down and end the spat whatever it is.

[huskies2raps]

"Treat this place like you're at bar with your buddies and shooting the shit. You're not always gonna agree with each other, but you have one common goal - a passion for the Raptors. Each person has an idea of how to better them. No one is right, yet no one is wrong, but at the end of the day, you don't take anything to heart and you move forward."

That is a very well said quote. I read here just about everyday, both for external Raptors links and the threads/game notes etc. and it has been a GREAT site to read other Rap's fans views and opinions, as well as insight. Don't post too often, not for lack of caring, just for the simple reason that most of the time there's points/posts brought up that had a similar idea of what I was thinking. Shame to hear the story of Matt, (first time reading about it), who's posts I thoroughly enjoyed reading.

And there really is no need to get upset on these forums, as 90% + of the people have the same intentions, to follow the team they've loved since 1995 and shoot the sh*t about all things Raptors. Thank you to those who are mods, regular posters, regular contributors, etc. for making this an awesome forum for what it's supposed to be: a forum for passionate raptors fans.

Cheers!!

[KeonClark]

I'm one of those lurkers, I just stopped posting because of all this pro-tank, anti-tank, etc that started to occur. TBH the forums became too personal with all the arguments and it was too drama-ish. I'm already in high school so I don't really want to argue with people on the Internet.

Winning fixes everything, even on message boards!

[er1csh3n]

I'm one of those lurkers, I just stopped posting because of all this pro-tank, anti-tank, etc that started to occur. TBH the forums became too personal with all the arguments and it was too drama-ish. I'm already in high school so I don't really want to argue with people on the Internet.

[BrydenB]

Speaking as a new-ish member who rarely posts: I read as a guest during the day (and because I think I'm a couple hours behind you guys being in Alberta, your after work posts are usually my middle of the day readings). However, I tend to just read at night even when I'm logged in. There are a couple members on here that I don't want to have interaction with so its just easier that way. I also have several friends in Manitoba who feel the same so they just read. Hopefully with the sillyness the last few days it'll go back to being a more civil place. Just some views frome a (somewhat) fresh set of eyes. Cheers!

[Doc]

Alright, this is the last that it will be spoken of. Any other conservation regarding Matt can be done elsewhere. Please and thank you.

He didn't like how things had transpired over the last month or so with particular members here at Raptors Republic. Have we as staff been a little too lackadaisical with enforcing the rules here? Absolutely which I took responsibility for. On the flipside, I don't want to run a forum that rules with an iron fist either. There has to be a little give both ways in my opinion.

He took these issues personal. I asked him to ignore them, he chose not too. The staff have tried to resolve these concerns which gave Matt no faith because he felt nothing had happened. All the guilty parties had been spoken too, and most took these warnings in stride. It still wasn't for enough Matt. Too many double standards. He was fed-up with our forums as a whole. This was directed to me which I can accept. He said and I quote "An environment has been created on the forums where It is acceptable for people to ridicule, mock, and insult me."

We all know Matt is a highly regarded member here at RR, but he chose not to let it go. As I mentioned to him, this a message board. You'll see the same shit here that you'll see on any forum or board anywhere on the internet. These issues and disagreements aren't just an isolated issue here at Raptors Republic. If our site as shit the bed as he had implied so, then sobeit. Its unfortunate that he and perhaps others here feel the same. It's not like I wake up everyday and think "Man, I wanna see what I can do to produce one of the shittiest Raptors fan forums on the internet today. Can't wait." Unfortunately with popularity and more activity comes more people and more problems.

I even suggested to him to explore other boards if things became too frustrating for him. Or just taking a step back or break from here in which he said that it would likely be too hard because of his "obsessive" behavior. Not sure what else we could of done. A handful of the staff tried to resolve this and he didn't like what he heard obviously.

So I told him I wasn't not going to ban him because he hadn't done anything wrong. It was after that when it went from bad to worse. He took it upon himself with actions that are not acceptable here and voiced his opinion of me and our site as a whole. He told us that he "doesn't give a crap" (which is obviously a lie) and that he doesn't intend on coming back as a member here at Raptors Republic.

Matt was an outstanding member (and moderator at one point) and I wish the best. I sincerely do. At the end of the day (and I'm going to steal this quote from Mangokid): "Treat this place like you're at bar with your buddies and shooting the shit. You're not always gonna agree with each other, but you have one common goal - a passion for the Raptors. Each person has an idea of how to better them. No one is right, yet no one is wrong, but at the end of the day, you don't take anything to heart and you move forward."

Anyhow, if any of you feel like we've been unfair or way off base, please PM us or me directly. This will not be discussed again moving forward. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.

[planetmars]

Definitely.

Mods, you should reconsider your stance on this matter. Do we really want to lose 5+ years of solid contributions over a few days' worth of sillyness?

I hope that once the dust settles, one of you will reach out to Matt with an invitation to re-join. The forums will be better because of it.

The whole situation is reminding me of what happened to Tim W. He was getting bombarded with posts during Bargnani's infamous 13 game stretch. He decided to stop posting. I guess it worked out for him since he writes articles on the main page. Wonder if that will be Matt's next gig?

[Katman]

I can't say that I have paid a lot of attention to the numbers in the past, but this is certainly a far cry from the last year or so.

I have often wondered about the "guests" though. Having 10 times as many anonymous browsers perusing the posts as actual members seems a little startling. Not sure how many members even post regularly. Probably not more than 30 or so. I wonder why the guests don't join in the conversation.

Probably not more than half of them are journalists looking for stories, or members of the Raptors management team looking for playing strategies or potential trade ideas. So why are the other half just browsing instead of mixing it up? In awe of the intelligence on display? Or frightened off by the name calling?

Maybe the guests are all banned ex-members.....I know you're out the Multipaul!

[ceez]

I can think of a couple trolls that should have been banned over Matt