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  • Nilanka
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    Jclaw wrote: View Post
    For those who care to listen, TL and the three mlse gms (Masai included) will be on the fan from 5-6 tomorrow. The last time I heard mccowan talk basketball, he was saying how butch carter firmly believed tdot was on a short list of options for lbj next year. Maybe it will come up.
    I wonder if Miami winning a 3rd title this year would help or hurt Lebron's chances of opting out.

    On the one hand, a 3rd ring with the same team....perhaps boredom would set in and Lebron would look for a new challenge.

    On the other hand, maybe losing in the finals gives Lebron the impression that Miami's window has closed, and again, he looks elsewhere for a new challenge.

    We could spin it either way.

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  • Jclaw
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    Leiweke on the fan tomorrow

    For those who care to listen, TL and the three mlse gms (Masai included) will be on the fan from 5-6 tomorrow. The last time I heard mccowan talk basketball, he was saying how butch carter firmly believed tdot was on a short list of options for lbj next year. Maybe it will come up.

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  • S.R.
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    Apollo wrote: View Post
    So let me get this straight. You're telling me he wants a challenge but only when it doesn't have to do with the whole objective of the game?

    Jordan didn't bail on the Bulls and team up with Ewing and Wilkins. No, he had to win it on his own team and punish those guys for ever even imagining they had an outside change at beating his team. Jordan tomahawked all challenges and got bored. Theres big difference between James and Jordan. Jordan never kicked sand in his fans' face, no that sand was reserved for punks on the other end of the floor.
    This tangent again...

    I'm no fan of "The Decision" - not at all.

    But

    Jordan/Bird/Magic etc. played in a critically different era - they were not in our current overexpanded version of the NBA, where the talent is much more diluted. Every player LeBron is compared to played with multiple HoFers - not just All-Stars, but all-time greats. LeBron's roster in Cleveland was such a steaming pile of **** that after he left they went straight into the lottery. Title contenders with him, lottery team without him. Jordan left the Bulls to play baseball and led by Pippin (HoFer) and HoF coach, they won 50 games and made it to the second round. James had Mike Brown and Mo Williams. There's just no comparison.

    So for me the argument enters speculation. What would Jordan have done if the Bulls had given him crap teammates that would peak with Mo Williams? Damn, but we know - he would explode. He exploded on Bulls management for drafting Toni Kukoc, for crying out loud. Michael Jordan would not have stayed in Cleveland, in that situation, to sign a 3rd contract just so he could prove that he could "win it on his own."

    Talk about the collusion and The Decision, but I don't think you can compare LeBron's situation to his all-time-great predecessors.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  • Apollo
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    webfeat wrote: View Post
    Well, LeBron wanted a ring, so that's why he left the Cavs. He went and got 2, and he's well on his way to a 3rd.

    When Jordan wanted a challenge, he went and played baseball. LeBron might be feeling a similar itch after winning his 3rd ring. What could be a greater challenge than bringing an NBA championship (or two, or three) to Canada?
    So let me get this straight. You're telling me he wants a challenge but only when it doesn't have to do with the whole objective of the game?

    Jordan didn't bail on the Bulls and team up with Ewing and Wilkins. No, he had to win it on his own team and punish those guys for ever even imagining they had an outside change at beating his team. Jordan tomahawked all challenges and got bored. Theres big difference between James and Jordan. Jordan never kicked sand in his fans' face, no that sand was reserved for punks on the other end of the floor.

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  • S.R.
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    Uncle_Si wrote: View Post
    Leiweke is up to big things, potentially acquiring the Argos? The man is trying to build a sports empire.....

    http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=442375
    LOL definitely the first time "Argos" and "empire" were used in the same comment.

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  • Uncle_Si
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    Leiweke is up to big things, potentially acquiring the Argos? The man is trying to build a sports empire.....

    http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=442375

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  • Uncle_Si
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    The thing I admire about TL is that he dreams big and executes big. Just read up on what he did with AEG and LA Live. He's the ultimate salesman. I like his cocky attitude and his grand plans (see parade route for Leafs Stanley cup win). It's something that this organization needs if it's ever going to become legit. Star players after all are cocky and refuse to set limits on themselves, having an organization that positions itself in a similar manner can only lead to good results, or at least an epic crash, both of which are entertaining. I'm very optimistic about sports in toronto in general because I think we have the perfect combination of big money, big ideas and the right personnel to execute. TL is a machine.

    This time last year I was writing emails to MLSE griping about my disgust in how they manage their teams and how the products the put out. Now I'm considering seasons tickets for the raps next year. Go figure. Now TL don't you fuck this up now.

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  • S.R.
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    Craig wrote: View Post
    Sure seems like they plan to try!
    This. At the very least, TL is a guy who is going to make a serious pitch to anybody (ex. LeBron or Durant). He's not going to not try, just because "oh well, this is just Toronto."

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  • Superjudge
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    Yogi wrote: View Post
    It makes sense. It really does. TL has serious clout and pull and connections. If he has a relationship with LBJ close enough where he can ask for a favor like that then I'm certain he can get in his ear about the glory awaiting him in Toronto. Think about it, having an entire country rooting for you. Not to mention the Raps are on the rise, and he would elevate them to contender status. It is quite the pipe dream, but the combo of TL, MU, Drake and national stardom could very well make it a reality. I won't hold my breath for it though. One thing for sure, MU and TL are making some big moved by trade deadline and/or off season.
    Sure seems like they plan to try!

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  • Nilanka
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    I think there's a difference between Lieweke's pulling out the stops (treating Dafoe's mom like a celebrity, showering her with gifts) and Colangelo's version of pulling out the stops (power point demonstration)
    Haha, touche.

    But then again, the last time we showered someone's mom with gifts, was around the time this franchise started it's downward decent into the NBA's abyss.

    I wonder who parks in Michelle's old spot now. Stripes?

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  • S.R.
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    ceez wrote: View Post
    I think there's a difference between Lieweke's pulling out the stops (treating Dafoe's mom like a celebrity, showering her with gifts) and Colangelo's version of pulling out the stops (power point demonstration)
    LOL - Colangeo had a Wayne Gretzky video or phone call, right? TL had LeBron in person. Colangelo is a guy with heavy basketball connections too, but this is like triple A vs. the majors. There is no higher level than what TL evidently just put on display. You bet that counts for something - players want to go to well-managed situations.

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  • ceez
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    Very, very, VERY interesting read!

    But call me skeptical when it comes to the Raptors. Didn't Colangelo pull out all the stops with his pitch to Nash?

    I have no doubt that Lieweke will go over the top with his pitch to [insert NBA star]. But whether that star can be convinced of the Raptors, remains to be seen.

    I'll believe it when I see it.
    I think there's a difference between Lieweke's pulling out the stops (treating Dafoe's mom like a celebrity, showering her with gifts) and Colangelo's version of pulling out the stops (power point demonstration)

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  • Nilanka
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    Bendit wrote: View Post
    The problem imo opinion wasnt (entirely) Babcock...rather it was Peddie who became the face of mlse, hired Babcock and then probably forced him to execute the panic trade of VC. Peddie loved being around pro jockstraps, meddled and screwed up both the Leafs & Raps.
    According to Grange's TV special, Peddie's first instinct was to nix the Carter trade (because of how terrible a deal it was), but chose to stay quiet because he had developed a reputation of being a meddling executive, and didn't want to play into that.

    In hindsight, he wished he acted on his instinct.

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  • Nilanka
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    Very, very, VERY interesting read!

    But call me skeptical when it comes to the Raptors. Didn't Colangelo pull out all the stops with his pitch to Nash?

    I have no doubt that Lieweke will go over the top with his pitch to [insert NBA star]. But whether that star can be convinced of the Raptors, remains to be seen.

    I'll believe it when I see it.

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  • Bendit
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    BallaBalla wrote: View Post
    Think about how smooth this guy is.... Then think about how rob Babcock was our GM
    The problem imo opinion wasnt (entirely) Babcock...rather it was Peddie who became the face of mlse, hired Babcock and then probably forced him to execute the panic trade of VC. Peddie loved being around pro jockstraps, meddled and screwed up both the Leafs & Raps.

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