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iblastoff wrote: View Posttheres never a 'point' that it does. it totally depends on a ton of variables. its like saying demar derozan has been in the starting lineup for numerous seasons and we've had an overall losing record therefore i guess he needs to go. its just a random stat that just happens to line up with each other.
ie) The ball goes inside more?
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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostI get what you're saying where some stats just line up and have no correlation (hence the correlation/causation), but JV taking more shots and us winning more are not unrelated stats....it isn't a be all end all "we will win if JV takes 10+ shots," but there may be some correlation.
ie) The ball goes inside more?
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OldSkoolCool wrote: View PostI get what you're saying where some stats just line up and have no correlation (hence the correlation/causation), but JV taking more shots and us winning more are not unrelated stats....it isn't a be all end all "we will win if JV takes 10+ shots," but there may be some correlation.
ie) The ball goes inside more?
I think it may be more along the lines of:
JV sits more when he's playing poorly.
JV doesn't get as many FGA when he's playing poorly.
>>> Raptors win when JV plays well?"Bruno?
Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
He's terrible."
-Superjudge, 7/23
Hope you're wrong.
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Letter N wrote: View PostCorrelation doesn't equal causation.
JV may get 12 points or more, or 10 FGA attempts or more, in wins because the Raps are more willing to run plays to a low option when the game is out of hand or when the opponent is weak."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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Puffer wrote: View Post12-4 when JV gets 10 or more FGA. Not a perfect correlation.
I think stooley here is on the right track
stooley wrote: View PostI see what you're saying, the stat definitely begs the question of whether there is any causation.
I think it may be more along the lines of:
JV sits more when he's playing poorly.
JV doesn't get as many FGA when he's playing poorly.
>>> Raptors win when JV plays well?
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At no point did I suggest causation. In fact, I did the opposite by noting that his statistical performance is not directly dependent upon play time, thus negating any causual link between JVs good performances and teams.
Regardless, the better argument would be that when JV struggles, he plays less. When JV plays less, our front court depth is exposed, and we tend to lose more. However, it is our lack of depth that contributes to the loss, not necessarily JVs poor performance. If JV were LeBron, andthis was the Cavs in his early years, you could maybe start to make these kinds of causal assumptions. But that's not the case here. JVs not that integral to our performance as an individual (yet), as our wins our usually predicated upon strong team play.Last edited by Abused Raptors Fan; Tue Feb 11, 2014, 07:56 PM.Being a Toronto Raptors fan is like being in an abusive relationship... Every time you've reached your breaking point after years of disappointment and neglect, they do just enough to give you hope for the future... Only to let you down again.
Here's hoping 2014-2015 breaks the cycle!!! #WeTheNorth
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Quirk wrote: View PostThen how do you explain the fact that the average shoe size of the prison population is significantly larger than the general population?
I suppose you could claim that two unrelated things overlap here, like for instance that more inmates are male and men have larger feet, on average, if you wanted to ignore the OBVIOUS FACT THAT PEOPLE WITH BIG FEET ARE CRIMINALS!!!!
*don't f*ck with me - heads up*
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