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  • golden wrote: View Post
    The NBA makes billions of dollars because of the media. And Kyle makes hundred of millions as a result. The NBA wants the media. The NBA needs the media. Lowry is 32 years old.... senior guy on the team. You'd think he would understand how the world works by now. If his objective is to avoid being in the media spotlight, then he's doing it backwards. He's feeding the beast. Fighting the media is futile.
    I fully agree with this in theory, but in reality guys are all kinds of different and these guys are just really good at a ball sport (they aren't customer service or public relations professionals) that has the potential to pay you millions of dollars. That's it. Different levels of maturity, communication skills, personalities, etc. etc. You get some like Lowry who don't really enjoy talking to the media, you get some who generally avoid the media where possible their entire careers, you get some who are great talking to the media and always available for a good quote/sound bite. As a fan, I don't really care about what does or doesn't end up on Sportscentre, I want guys who win games and have their heads on straight in the locker room (that would be where I draw the attitude line).

    I can appreciate the frustration for the media just trying to do their jobs. On the other hand, you have to admit sports media ask some pretty lame questions and you can see why players get frustrated with the whole process.
    Last edited by S.R.; Thu Sep 27th, 2018, 06:12 PM.
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    • TRex wrote: View Post
      Also want to add that you are the laughing stock of the league in the playoffs. Every year, before the playoffs starts, the question is, will Kyle Lowry step up? Is this the year he finally shows up in the playoffs?

      You're the main reason why nobody ever take the Raptors seriously. Raps won 59 games last year and alot of people still picked the Wizards to upset you in the 1st round.

      #RealTalk




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      • Law of Raptor: Every year there must be a controversial player
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        • Listen to CJ: end of discussion.

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          • Hotshot wrote: View Post
            Listen to CJ: end of discussion.
            Let's just hope that Lowry can back it up "between those lines" if he's going to create distractions around the team off the court with more dickheadness than we're used to... even from him. You'd think that a team leader would accept the responsibility to set an example for the young guys - how to be a professional, on and off the court, but whatever..... Kyle is Kyle. smh.

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            • golden wrote: View Post
              Let's just hope that Lowry can back it up "between those lines" if he's going to create distractions around the team off the court with more dickheadness than we're used to... even from him. You'd think that a team leader would accept the responsibility to set an example for the young guys - how to be a professional, on and off the court, but whatever..... Kyle is Kyle. smh.
              Thus far ignoring reporters who will just bait him for emotions is fine by me. If he starts having issues communicating with Nurse and starts to become difficult (which thus far hasn't happen) on & off the court then I would be concern.

              If you are Lowry you have to connect the dots that not only your best friend is not on the team but your new team-mate Kawhi (whom DD got traded for) is tied to his future. If Kawhi leaves (which at this point is more likely then staying) then its pretty much the end of Lowry time in Toronto as well.

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              • Hotshot wrote: View Post
                Thus far ignoring reporters who will just bait him for emotions is fine by me. If he starts having issues communicating with Nurse and starts to become difficult (which thus far hasn't happen) on & off the court then I would be concern.

                If you are Lowry you have to connect the dots that not only your best friend is not on the team but your new team-mate Kawhi (whom DD got traded for) is tied to his future. If Kawhi leaves (which at this point is more likely then staying) then its pretty much the end of Lowry time in Toronto as well.
                I don't think it's so much that DeMar isn't on the team... it's the Ujiri line: "I gave them chances". "Them" is: Lowry, DeRozan and Casey. 2 of those guys are eternally pissed at the franchise, but they don't have to rep Toronto anymore.

                My guess would be that Lowry is steamed that he got publicly called out for the past playoff failure and is the only one left who has to face that history here alone.... with the car keys taken away from him and handed over to the new guy. He's a proud, proud man.

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                • golden wrote: View Post
                  ...My guess would be that...
                  Glad to see that you recognize it is simply a guess, because you have been writing like you have certain knowledge. It's great to guess about stuff, but so far all indications are that he has been all business and I have now seen two interviews where he seems to be lighthearted and engaging.

                  "Dickheadedness," your label for him, seems to be completely absent, except for you perception and belief in what your interpretation of his motivations are. We'll all know more as the season progresses.

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                  • golden wrote: View Post
                    I don't think it's so much that DeMar isn't on the team... it's the Ujiri line: "I gave them chances". "Them" is: Lowry, DeRozan and Casey. 2 of those guys are eternally pissed at the franchise, but they don't have to rep Toronto anymore.

                    My guess would be that Lowry is steamed that he got publicly called out for the past playoff failure and is the only one left who has to face that history here alone.... with the car keys taken away from him and handed over to the new guy. He's a proud, proud man.
                    Puffer wrote: View Post
                    Glad to see that you recognize it is simply a guess, because you have been writing like you have certain knowledge. It's great to guess about stuff, but so far all indications are that he has been all business and I have now seen two interviews where he seems to be lighthearted and engaging.

                    "Dickheadedness," your label for him, seems to be completely absent, except for you perception and belief in what your interpretation of his motivations are. We'll all know more as the season progresses.
                    To be fair, Lowry's never been great with media. Towards his teammates and the fans, he hasn't shown anything different.

                    He has hated media since day 1, and I can still remember that annoying scrum with the one reporter asking him several times about "doing our jobs," "why can't you just give us answers," type of thing that made me want to throw my glass of water at the T.V.
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                    • http://oswrf.outsideshot.libsynpro.c...eal-kyle-lowry

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                      • Kyle is the best.

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                        • Shredder wrote: View Post
                          When Rudy Gay left, Kyle was fine. I believe Rudy was the godfather to his oldest. Kyle is a pro. He will come out and play

                          His game works so well on paper with Danny and Kawhi. Allows him to take the risks on D that he loves to do, and now there are at least 3 guys on the floor that can back him up. Not to mention on offence. Spacing galore. A game or two in and everything will be fine.
                          Honestly, lets think for a sec. What could he say?
                          Reporter: Kyle, what do you think of the trade?
                          KL (Answer 1): It sucks, we traded a 4 time all star for a player that was hurt (he will not say that);
                          A2: Fuck DD & loyalty, we got 1 of best players in NBA (again he will not say that)
                          Maybe only logical answer:
                          Hey, MU traded my best friend, 4x all star & a very loyal guy, but got back heck of a player. Season looks promising & you will get 100% effort from me as usual,

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                          • golden wrote: View Post
                            I don't think it's so much that DeMar isn't on the team... it's the Ujiri line: "I gave them chances". "Them" is: Lowry, DeRozan and Casey. 2 of those guys are eternally pissed at the franchise, but they don't have to rep Toronto anymore.

                            My guess would be that Lowry is steamed that he got publicly called out for the past playoff failure and is the only one left who has to face that history here alone.... with the car keys taken away from him and handed over to the new guy. He's a proud, proud man.
                            He can get steamed all the hell he wants, but Kyle is smart enough to realize our chances of winning increased significantly.
                            As for THEM 3 getting blamed for brutal playoff performance last few years: Who should MU blame? Bebe? Bruno? Get serious. Of course blame has to be on our 2 best players & coach.
                            Facing history alone? So what? Winning can fix that, and I am confident that we all firmly believe that this team is way better equiped to win this year.

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                            • He called last year wasted in his exit interview on Open Gym. IIRC

                              MU made sure not to waste another. Kyle gets it. Rides for his guy. Doesn't like perception as reality media fishing.

                              Having a story in mind and half written then begging or coercing a quote or soundbite is no more professional than pouting and being obtuse in scrums.

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                              • golden wrote: View Post
                                The NBA makes billions of dollars because of the media. And Kyle makes hundred of millions as a result. The NBA wants the media. The NBA needs the media. Lowry is 32 years old.... senior guy on the team. You'd think he would understand how the world works by now. If his objective is to avoid being in the media spotlight, then he's doing it backwards. He's feeding the beast. Fighting the media is futile.
                                I don't think this is being characterized correctly. Lowry doesn't want to fight the media. He does not feel beholden to them either, regardless of whether you think he should. He just doesn't care to cater to their easy narratives. He doesn't want to avoid the spotlight, he just likes screwing with the people putting him in it. He's always been this way. Everyone is just super sensitive to it now because of Kawhi, but there's no reason to be. How Lowry interacts with the media has proven in the past to have zero relationship with how he interacts with his teammates and management or how he plays on the court, which are the bits that will matter when it comes to re-signing Kawhi or having success this season.
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