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  • DogeLover1234
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    I think we need an offensive player of the year award. Lots of time the offense is the main driver of these MVP campaigns. You have to take into account Giannis has been unbelievable on D he will probably be on most peoples ballot for DPOY. Harden can have offensive player of the year and giannis is the MVP.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    I think we need an offensive player of the year award. Lots of time the offense is the main driver of these MVP campaigns. You have to take into account Giannis has been unbelievable on D he will probably be on most peoples ballot for DPOY. Harden can have offensive player of the year and giannis is the MVP.

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  • DogeLover1234
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    The Great One wrote: View Post

    I don't think it should be close at all. You mentioned Harden's numbers, Giannis numbers this year is out of this world as well. And the Bucks have the best record in the NBA. Giannis also doesn't have a true superstar like Chris Paul to play with.

    The Bucks are basically Giannis + a bunch of role players.

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  • Other Scott
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    You can tar and feather me now, because the court of popular opinion has rendered its decision. But I think Harden is the MVP. Bucks are 6th in the East without Giannis IMO. Rockets are BAAAAAAD this year without Harden. Probably only ahead of Phoenix. Especially factoring Bucks have been fairly healthy all year until now and Rockets were pretty decimated. And lost key guys from last year, whereas Bucks have added guys. And yet, Harden remains the biggest threat to the Warriors out West
    My argument against this is that Milwaukee is going to finish almost 10 games above Houston in the standings, and it's those last 10 wins that are the toughest ones to get, to take you from very good team to great team. I think the gap between Milwaukee with and without Giannis is pretty similar to the gap between Houston with and without Harden.

    That being said, I think it's incredibly close, but Harden gets my vote. Giannis has been given the perfect scenario to succeed in Milwaukee. He's still been great but on a lesser team or a team not built as well as the Bucks are he doesn't put up these kind of numbers or is that kind of a menace. Milwaukee is perfectly built to hide his flaws and accentuate his strengths. Harden's Houston situation isn't quite like that. It has been in past years, but this year he just went all out and played terrifically the whole year with very little support right when his team needed him to. Giannis is better defensively and that matters, but I think ounce for ounce Harden is ever so slightly more valuable that Giannis is.

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  • The Great One
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    DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post

    Also because Harden had the best season. Its a little surprising how little respect Harden and the Rockets get tbh. Even if you think Giannis should get MVP its close. Harden has had a fantastic season, and is the best offensive player in the league right now. Its like Curry in the pre KD era, dude is the offense and there isnt much other teams can do.
    I don't think it should be close at all. You mentioned Harden's numbers, Giannis numbers this year is out of this world as well. And the Bucks have the best record in the NBA. Giannis also doesn't have a true superstar like Chris Paul to play with.

    The Bucks are basically Giannis + a bunch of role players.

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  • DogeLover1234
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    The Great One wrote: View Post

    Agreed.

    Giannis, Luka and Skills ahould all be unanimous.

    The Rockets GM the other day was whining about the MVP/place in the standings debate. I just find it hilarious because the main reason why Harden won the MVP over LeBron last year was because of the Rockets record.
    Also because Harden had the best season. Its a little surprising how little respect Harden and the Rockets get tbh. Even if you think Giannis should get MVP its close. Harden has had a fantastic season, and is the best offensive player in the league right now. Its like Curry in the pre KD era, dude is the offense and there isnt much other teams can do.

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  • The Great One
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    ESPN has their take on the award season:
    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...ons-should-win


    Here are their winners:

    ROY - Doncic
    COY - Bud
    6MOY - Lou
    MIP - Siakam
    DPOY - Gobert
    MVP - Giannis
    Agreed.

    Giannis, Luka and Skills ahould all be unanimous.

    The Rockets GM the other day was whining about the MVP/place in the standings debate. I just find it hilarious because the main reason why Harden won the MVP over LeBron last year was because of the Rockets record.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    TheWaterboy wrote: View Post
    My own personal executive of the year likely isn't going to get even a single vote.

    Dell Demps handled the Rich Paul/Magic Johnson manipulations/Anthony Davis trade demand perfectly. Not only did he do the right thing (hold on to the asset until the offseason), but he gave any team that wishes to back-door tamper (or any agent that wishes to bring on players under contract to his star player's team to the contract holder's detriment) cause to think twice.

    And... he got fired for it. So he's not likely to get any support from the awards voters.
    LOL that award acceptance speech would be more awkward then Caseys

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  • DogeLover1234
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    TheWaterboy wrote: View Post
    My own personal executive of the year likely isn't going to get even a single vote.

    Dell Demps handled the Rich Paul/Magic Johnson manipulations/Anthony Davis trade demand perfectly. Not only did he do the right thing (hold on to the asset until the offseason), but he gave any team that wishes to back-door tamper (or any agent that wishes to bring on players under contract to his star player's team to the contract holder's detriment) cause to think twice.

    And... he got fired for it. So he's not likely to get any support from the awards voters.
    I can't argue against any GM who screws over the Lakers or Celtics, good point.

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  • TheWaterboy
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    My own personal executive of the year likely isn't going to get even a single vote.

    Dell Demps handled the Rich Paul/Magic Johnson manipulations/Anthony Davis trade demand perfectly. Not only did he do the right thing (hold on to the asset until the offseason), but he gave any team that wishes to back-door tamper (or any agent that wishes to bring on players under contract to his star player's team to the contract holder's detriment) cause to think twice.

    And... he got fired for it. So he's not likely to get any support from the awards voters.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    You can tar and feather me now, because the court of popular opinion has rendered its decision. But I think Harden is the MVP. Bucks are 6th in the East without Giannis IMO. Rockets are BAAAAAAD this year without Harden. Probably only ahead of Phoenix. Especially factoring Bucks have been fairly healthy all year until now and Rockets were pretty decimated. And lost key guys from last year, whereas Bucks have added guys. And yet, Harden remains the biggest threat to the Warriors out West
    I just think it much more difficult for voters to give a guy back to back awards. It seems like they want to reward the new guy on the scene lately. It's hard to argue for Harden when his team is lower in the standings then last year when he won the award. Now giannis he has made the leap from a 6th seed to number 1 in the league. Yes some of that is probably due to the new coach and system but still it seems more impressive to me what the bucks have been able to do then rockets. If anything houston may have underperformed preseason expectations where milwaukee exploded past where everyone expected. This was a run away 2 months ago but Hardens been so damm good since January that now its actually a race. If he hadn't won last year i think he might take it... But giannis is the new face of the league and i expect him to walk away with it.

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  • slaw
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post
    You can tar and feather me now, because the court of popular opinion has rendered its decision. But I think Harden is the MVP. Bucks are 6th in the East without Giannis IMO. Rockets are BAAAAAAD this year without Harden. Probably only ahead of Phoenix. Especially factoring Bucks have been fairly healthy all year until now and Rockets were pretty decimated. And lost key guys from last year, whereas Bucks have added guys. And yet, Harden remains the biggest threat to the Warriors out West
    No, I'm with you. What Harden has done in Houston is absolutely incredible. Houston doesn't make the playoffs without him. With him, they are, as you say, likely the biggest threat to GSW out West. I think Giannis will get his turn sooner rather than later but Harden deserves this one.

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  • KeonClark
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    You can tar and feather me now, because the court of popular opinion has rendered its decision. But I think Harden is the MVP. Bucks are 6th in the East without Giannis IMO. Rockets are BAAAAAAD this year without Harden. Probably only ahead of Phoenix. Especially factoring Bucks have been fairly healthy all year until now and Rockets were pretty decimated. And lost key guys from last year, whereas Bucks have added guys. And yet, Harden remains the biggest threat to the Warriors out West

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  • bertarapsfan
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    S.R. wrote: View Post

    Just because of 55 GP?
    no not just because of the games. the position of his team in the standings and performance compared to preseason expectations. kawhi has missed games but Toronto is at the top of the standings. blake has carried pistons to the playoffs i put them both above lebron. that means he's fighting for the last spot on the 3rd team IMO. he probably gets on that last team but I would reward a player who has been able to translate his ability to team success like Aldridge.

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  • S.R.
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

    I pretty much agree with you All NBA teams except for lebron on the 2nd team. If i was a voter i wouldnt even put him on the 3rd. I have griffin and kawhi above him. Dont see how his season can be viewed as having a better season as kawhi or griffin. I get voters will favor him but imo last forward spot should be a 3 way race between Aldridge, Davis and Lebron. If i was voting id put Aldridge, soured on AD after the new orelens fiasco and Lebron by all pre season prediction had a faliure of a season and played 55 games.
    Just because of 55 GP?

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