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  • Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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    • Apollo wrote: View Post
      Another thing. If you or I pushed a cop like that what do you think would happen no matter the race? We might be cuffed and be spitting up teeth at the hospital.
      WTH, Apollo? Leo Rautins (a tall white man) said he walked onto the court right past security showing zero credentials whatsoever. The whole mess started with racial profiling. And it's mired in a cesspool of lies with Masai's reputation unfairly tarnished, until the so-called police can find a face saving way out this mountain of sh*t they created.

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      • golden wrote: View Post

        WTH, Apollo? Leo Rautins (a tall white man) said he walked onto the court right past security showing zero credentials whatsoever. The whole mess started with racial profiling. And it's mired in a cesspool of lies with Masai's reputation unfairly tarnished, until the so-called police can find a face saving way out this mountain of sh*t they created.
        Exactly, this is exactly what I was saying.
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        • Retaliation against police officer never ends well. This story is murky though
          Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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          • golden wrote: View Post

            WTH, Apollo? Leo Rautins (a tall white man) said he walked onto the court right past security showing zero credentials whatsoever. The whole mess started with racial profiling. And it's mired in a cesspool of lies with Masai's reputation unfairly tarnished, until the so-called police can find a face saving way out this mountain of sh*t they created.
            I didn't know the Leo piece. Ok, so let's say it was racial profiling, I still don't think this goes away so easily if the video shows him making contact with the face of the police officer. What I'm saying here is just because we like Masai doesn't mean anything in a criminal investigation. I hope it all blows over but don't bank on this coming back to the police apologizing to him. Like I said, if he was average Joe on the street this would likely have been much worse no matter if the cop was right or wrong.

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            • MixxAOR wrote: View Post
              Retaliation against police officer never ends well. This story is murky though
              Indeed, this is what I'm getting at. If it was a racist act still stand down. People get shot for less than this in the states.

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              • Like I said earlier.. this cop wants a big pay day. Otherwise he wouldn't be talking about concussions or serious blows to his jaw. MLSE should just pony up the cash in a settlement and let this go. Masai should not have to worry about this.

                Otherwise this can go badly.. for example Masai may not be able to come back to the states (and he needs to for his job). If Masai touched the cop (even as a form of retaliation) he's in the wrong.


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                • MixxAOR wrote: View Post
                  Retaliation against police officer never ends well. This story is murky though
                  I would still like to see the video of the actual incident before being 100% confident of what happened or what the story is actually about. Seen way too many of these stories reported one way and end up another.

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                  • Apollo wrote: View Post

                    Indeed, this is what I'm getting at. If it was a racist act still stand down. People get shot for less than this in the states.
                    The analogies are getting straight-up crazy. That type of sh*t happens when cops stop a car on highway, or a bunch of perceived-to-be threatening looking young black men are around a store. This was the goddamn NBA championship, in front of 20,000+ people, being viewed by 100's of millions worldwide.

                    Seems like you're falling into the same type of Trumpian justification that's veering into the realm of the bizarre.... pretty much the same as what's going on in the Sherriff's office. A simple apology to Masai would end this travesty immediately, but they're creating a bigger and bigger pile of deception until they can find a face-saving way out of this turd mountain.

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                    • slaw wrote: View Post

                      I would still like to see the video of the actual incident before being 100% confident of what happened or what the story is actually about. Seen way too many of these stories reported one way and end up another.
                      Exactly what I've been saying. My guess is there's a little blame for everyone to be spread around

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                      • golden wrote: View Post

                        The analogies are getting straight-up crazy. That type of sh*t happens when cops stop a car on highway, or a bunch of perceived-to-be threatening looking young black men are around a store. This was the goddamn NBA championship, in front of 20,000+ people, being viewed by 100's of millions worldwide.

                        Seems like you're falling into the same type of Trumpian justification that's veering into the realm of the bizarre.... pretty much the same as what's going on in the Sherriff's office. A simple apology to Masai would end this travesty immediately, but they're creating a bigger and bigger pile of deception until they can find a face-saving way out of this turd mountain.
                        Not sure how you read my post to be a police justification. Pretty big accusation, do explain that bit to me. Thanks.

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                        • I see all the Republicans are out defending the boys in blue

                          Cops, A bunch of high school educated guys that chose a badge and a gun over being a welder, probably picked on in school, or were the bully themselves.

                          the need to constantly defend cops as all things virtuous despite all the evidence to the contrary is something I'll never understand

                          this is where I differ from other conservatives socially
                          9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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                          • KeonClark wrote: View Post
                            I see all the Republicans are out defending the boys in blue

                            Cops, A bunch of high school educated guys that chose a badge and a gun over being a welder, probably picked on in school, or were the bully themselves.

                            the need to constantly defend cops as all things virtuous despite all the evidence to the contrary is something I'll never understand

                            this is where I differ from other conservatives socially
                            I agree. The added stench here is the threatened lawsuit.

                            Having said that, I still want to see the video of this.

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                            • Apollo wrote: View Post

                              Not sure how you read my post to be a police justification. Pretty big accusation, do explain that bit to me. Thanks.
                              You're arguing that Masai somehow deserves this humiliating treatment.

                              First off, he should have received a VIP escort to the court from the beginning. Secondly, he never should have been detained. Thirdly, he had his credentials with him. Fourthly, lots of other people (i.e. white) went right past security en masse. Fifthly, there is zero evidence that Masai punched or hit anybody, as is being alleged.

                              Yet somehow you are believing the police have some type of case to keep this charade going, when they should be apologizing for the 5 points (at a minimum) that I mentioned above. IMO, sounds a lot like a justification for their crazy actions, and grasping at the same phantom straws that the police are.

                              Hope that explains it.

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                              • slaw wrote: View Post

                                I agree. The added stench here is the threatened lawsuit.

                                Having said that, I still want to see the video of this.
                                They think that the best defense is a strong offense. It's a classic Trumpian tactic. "You're a racist". "No.... you're a bigger racist."

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