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  • How important is Lowry to this team?

    According to Cathal Kelly at the Globe and Mail, the answer is more than "a lot":

    The bold is interesting - no?

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    How important is Lowry to this team? - VERY!

    According to Cathal Kelly at the Globe and Mail... - Cathal isn't at The Star anymore? I stopped going there once they introduced the pay wall.

    The bold is interesting - no? - Yes...in particular, "MLSE has gone so far down the road to planning a future with Lowry that, were he to leave, he would be derailing the train."

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    • #3
      I've said this a number of times over the last month or two, if we can't retain Lowry, then this franchise takes another huge step backwards. If he isn't here this fall, then in my eyes this season was just a huge cock tease and all for naught. I love the development of young guys like Demar, Ross and JV, but no one has lead this team with as much superiority since Vince, then what Lowry has done for this team this season.

      No pressure Masai, but you (and our cheer bunny Drake) better find a way to ensure Lowry's here AT LEAST a minimum of another 3 years. Get it done.

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      • #4
        We'll be fine if he leaves.

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        • #5
          Dr. James Naismith wrote: View Post
          If he isn't here this fall, then in my eyes this season was just a huge cock tease and all for naught.
          My feeling as well, if Lowry doesn't resign, trade Amir and Derozan and for young talent and try to make the leap again in two-three seasons.
          "They're going to have to rename the whole conference after us: Toronto Raptors 2014-2015 Northern Conference Champions" ~ ezzbee Dec. 2014

          "I guess I got a little carried away there" ~ ezzbee Apr. 2015

          "We only have one rule on this team. What is that rule? E.L.E. That's right's, E.L.E, and what does E.L.E. stand for? EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY. Right there up on the wall, because this isn't just a basketball team, this is a lifestyle. ~ Jackie Moon

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          • #6
            JawsGT wrote: View Post
            We'll be fine if he leaves.
            Unless you're replacing him with a similar calibre PG, no we won't be fine. Slim pickings for alternatives this summer too. This is also coming from one of Lowry's biggest critics, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss how important he is to this team at the moment. Just sayin'.

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            • #7
              Dr. James Naismith wrote: View Post
              Unless you're replacing him with a similar calibre PG, no we won't be fine. Slim pickings for alternatives this summer too. This is also coming from one of Lowry's biggest critics, but I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss how important he is to this team at the moment. Just sayin'.
              I'm not dismissing it, I just don't think losing him will be the end of it. But if it is, we can always try tanking next year thankfully.

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              • #8
                well damn
                Only one thing matters: We The Champs.

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                • #9
                  I'm quite torn on the subject.

                  I'm completely convinced that Lowry is the biggest part of our success this season. He's been awesome - defensively, offensively and from a leadership/locker room perspective. But holy crap does the "blank cheque" stuff make me nervous. The whole thing about contract year pushes is that they are supposed to be convincing. Even if his attitude and mental make up have changed for good - there's still the injury issue. Giving him 5 years for big money could be a disaster even if his intentions and attitude stay solid.

                  There's still a big part of me that thinks if Lowry decides to get his $13 million a year from someone else it will be a blessing in disguise. Going all in for a good but not superstar-type of guy like Lowry seems like much of the 'small market mentality' that we were supposedly moving away from when Leiweke arrived.
                  Last edited by Fully; Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:47 AM.

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                  • #10
                    If JV keeps developing not as important.The team is still OK without Lowry running more of the plays DD to Val or Ross but the team is much better with him.

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                    • #11
                      He's our best player, but we play team ball this year and do not have an unhealthy dependence on any single player. If this team loses Lowry in the off-season, I think we will still be good next year. When we lost Vince, and when we lost Bosh, that was not the case. We relied too much on those guys.

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                      • #12
                        ezz_bee wrote: View Post
                        My feeling as well, if Lowry doesn't resign, trade Amir and Derozan and for young talent and try to make the leap again in two-three seasons.
                        I have a hard time believing that Masai would already begin dismantling this franchise so soon. I could be naive in thinking this, but I'm not prepared to part ways with key players to take a couple steps back again. It might just mean key guys and our coaching staff need to step it up this summer and work harder with our areas of concern & inefficiencies.

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                        • #13
                          Fully wrote: View Post
                          I'm quite torn on the subject.

                          I'm completely convinced that Lowry is the biggest part of our success this season. He's been awesome - defensively, offensively and from a leadership/locker room perspective. But holy crap does the "blank cheque" stuff make me nervous. The whole thing about contract year pushes is that they are supposed to be convincing. Even if his attitude and mental make up have changed for good - there's still the injury issue. Giving him 5 years for big money could be a disaster even if his intentions and attitude stay solid.

                          There's still a big part of me that thinks if Lowry decides to get his $13 million a year from someone else it will be a blessing in disguise. Going all in for a good but not superstar-type of guy like Lowry seems like much of the 'small market mentality' that we were supposedly moving away from when Leiweke arrived.
                          Here's the rub. While we all can see how valuable Lowry has been to their success, if you just give him what he wants (lets say 4 years $11 million per) you have effectively locked up this core and cap wise probably don't have much more room to do anything else in player acquisitions for a year or 2. Could be longer depending on what happens with Grevis, Patterson contracts, etc.

                          Don't think you will ever get the effort drop off from Lowry but you might not get the same numbers this year, going forward again if you are making this season the benchmark. Respect Lowry to the fullest and his efforts but also feel like if you pay him top dollar, more resources are going into the team, which is good......yet they still have no star, which for sustaining winning and competing at the highest levels is mandatory. There is unfortunately still a salary cap, and most of the teams resources will be devoted to a 28 year old pg, who has never been to an all-star game and would not be considered in the elite of the pg's in the NBA today (very good player but not on level of Paul, Parker, Curry, etc).

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                          • #14
                            Dr. James Naismith wrote: View Post
                            I have a hard time believing that Masai would already begin dismantling this franchise so soon. I could be naive in thinking this, but I'm not prepared to part ways with key players to take a couple steps back again. It might just mean key guys and our coaching staff need to step it up this summer and work harder with our areas of concern & inefficiencies.
                            Now you're talking. See, we will be fine if he leaves

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                            • #15
                              I agree. And I even think the 4-years, $11 million dollar deal may be on the conservative side. Articles like the one in the OP certainly don't do anything to drive his value down, and if Kelly is accurate in his assessment that the Raptors are going to give him whatever he wants basically, Lowry and his agent would be crazy not to ask for big dollars and probably the extra year.

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