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  • #16
    Something interesting as well will be the center matchup. Ibaka may be better at guarding brook at the 3pt line but i dont think we can take marc out of the starting lineup. Also is has been shown that someone with serge's build can be a good option to put on giannis. We probably stick with our starting 5 but if things get dicey and danny green still cant get it going it might be worth going big again and starting the lineup that closed game 7. We would probably need OG back to do this for work as we would literally have no backup bigs. That said i would only go to this starting 5 if we lose the first 2 and are outmatched in both games.

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    • #17
      The one nice thing about this series this time is that Thon Maker won't be killing us off the bench.

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      • #18
        Apollo wrote: View Post
        Slaw, the 76ers got bailed out a couple times in the last couple minutes of the game. The 76ers had 11 more FT attempt and there were multiple times where Kawhi got grabbed or hit and there was a no call, only for it to go the other way down the court and the Raptors get called on something not even remotely as bad. Some of this stuff is subjective I guess, because I viewed that game differently than you. I was left scratching my head multiple times.
        Meh, if you don't do anything offensively you can't expect foul calls. Gasol and Green and Siakam weren't doing anything to get to the free throw line, mostly, they were just looking to get rid of the ball. Lowry only ventured inside once or twice. I mean, you can't get to the free throw line passing the ball around. Leonard went 8 times. Yeah, maybe he could have got a few more whistles but the way the Raps play they are almost always going to get the short-end of the free throw battle.

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        • #19
          Jclaw wrote: View Post
          wow....every other day for the whole series. Feel bad for the "just off a 7 games series" Raps but that's unbelievable for the fans. Is there any metric that tracks Toronto employee productivity over the next 2 weeks?
          Actually I think this is an advantage for the Raps having 3 days off instead of a week. Time enough to be rested and getting any nagging aches and pains sorted but no time to be rusty.

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          • #20
            I think we have the pieces to slow down Giannis that the Celtics did not, and I trust the Bucks' supporting cast less than I trust our bench.

            Raps in 7. Maybe 6.

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            • #21
              Time to shine Playoff Norm.

              remembered that moment he owned Middleton

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              • #22
                Both Green and Lowery have to hit their shots from outside. Without that this series will end early. On the other hand, Bucks bench is far better than ours, so Powell and VV must be consistent and reliable.

                It is a tough series, and what makes it tougher for us is the homecourt advantage for Bucks.

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                • #23
                  I'm not over confident on this series and I can't believe some are already. Raptors in 5? Not a chance imo.

                  For all the reasons we've discussed previously
                  -Giannis is the new darling of the NBA and he will get phantom call after phantom call. Hard to hate on the guy though, he's a generational talent. Giannis is very likely the (slightly) superior offensive force over Kawhi but too close to really matter and Leonard is the superior all around bball player imo. It's almost a push unless the NBA refs step in (and I think they will)

                  -Siakam will be the Freak's primary defender and he'll have to do it while not giving up his avg 20 PPG. He's also the only Raptor that can semi match Giannis' fast break ability.

                  -Khris Middleton is rolling. He is averaging 19.1 points and shooting 46.7 percent on 3-pointers, while also posting 6.0 rebounds and 4.6 assists. He is the defensive ace we lack in his position combined with the 3 pt threat. The Buck's perimeter could be the difference in this series.

                  -3 point % is a huge disadvantage that I don't see an obvious fix for. Gasol, Danny and even Lowry have to stop passing up open shots but more importantly, start making them.

                  The Bucks made and attempted the second-most 3-pointers in the league this season, trailing only the Houston Rockets. Every player on Milwaukee's roster is comfortable shooting 3-pointers, even Brook Lopez, who set the record for 3s made by a centre during the regular season. I thought he would cool off all season but he really didn't.

                  -Coaching. By all acounts, Bud is the best coach of all time and Nurse is cluseless and overmatched. I don't agree but it is what it is and I thnk it's at least fair to say that this is advantage, Bucks.

                  -The bench. The Bucks bench has played 19+ minutes per game (4th among the original playoff 16) and are a +4.5 average. Our bench, save for a few heroic efforts by Serge, is crap.

                  I can argue Raps in 6 or 7 but I can more easily argue Bucks in 6. Anyone saying Raps in 5 is dreaming in the glow of last night imo. We'll need some degree of resurgence from Danny and Marc and FVV but also a continued good effort and results from Kawhi, Spicy P and Kyle.

                  Somehow hold Giannis to less then God-like numbers and stay home on the shooters. Somehow fix our own 3 pt shooting. Hope the refs have bets on the Raptors for some reason. Take at least one of the first two in Milwaukee.

                  Easy peasy ....

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                  • #24
                    I think we need to win either the 1st or 2nd game in Milwaukee, and try to win it in 6 games. I'd be a bit concerned going 7 games against the Bucks considering that we don't have home court.

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                    • #25
                      Cautiously optimistic on this one. The defense should be there, not sure I'd trust the Bucks role players yet either, but Raptors are going to have to figure the offensive stuff out. Part of it is just going to be making shots, but they are going to need find one or two ways to pressure defenses besides Kawhi. Can't afford to throw away game one after a huge win either. Should be fun.

                      Edit: With all the talk about how good the Bucks are from 3, they sure didn't shoot it well in the regular season. For sure they have some great shooters, but this team almost seems like a great regular season team that hasn't earned my post season respect yet. Will be a pivotal series for both teams.
                      Last edited by DogeLover1234; Mon May 13th, 2019, 02:26 PM.

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                      • #26
                        RaptorsVictim wrote: View Post
                        Both Green and Lowery have to hit their shots from outside. Without that this series will end early. On the other hand, Bucks bench is far better than ours, so Powell and VV must be consistent and reliable.

                        It is a tough series, and what makes it tougher for us is the homecourt advantage for Bucks.
                        I just had a thought last night, I kind of LIKE that we don't have homecourt for once. It never seems to be this huge advantage anyways

                        let's get the split (or better) in Milwaukee and put the pressure on the other team for once.
                        It's Klaw Season. Time to hunt.

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                        • #27
                          G__Deane wrote: View Post
                          I'm not over confident on this series and I can't believe some are already. Raptors in 5? Not a chance imo.

                          For all the reasons we've discussed previously
                          -Giannis is the new darling of the NBA and he will get phantom call after phantom call. Hard to hate on the guy though, he's a generational talent. Giannis is very likely the (slightly) superior offensive force over Kawhi but too close to really matter and Leonard is the superior all around bball player imo. It's almost a push unless the NBA refs step in (and I think they will)

                          -Siakam will be the Freak's primary defender and he'll have to do it while not giving up his avg 20 PPG. He's also the only Raptor that can semi match Giannis' fast break ability.

                          -Khris Middleton is rolling. He is averaging 19.1 points and shooting 46.7 percent on 3-pointers, while also posting 6.0 rebounds and 4.6 assists. He is the defensive ace we lack in his position combined with the 3 pt threat. The Buck's perimeter could be the difference in this series.

                          -3 point % is a huge disadvantage that I don't see an obvious fix for. Gasol, Danny and even Lowry have to stop passing up open shots but more importantly, start making them.

                          The Bucks made and attempted the second-most 3-pointers in the league this season, trailing only the Houston Rockets. Every player on Milwaukee's roster is comfortable shooting 3-pointers, even Brook Lopez, who set the record for 3s made by a centre during the regular season. I thought he would cool off all season but he really didn't.

                          -Coaching. By all acounts, Bud is the best coach of all time and Nurse is cluseless and overmatched. I don't agree but it is what it is and I thnk it's at least fair to say that this is advantage, Bucks.

                          -The bench. The Bucks bench has played 19+ minutes per game (4th among the original playoff 16) and are a +4.5 average. Our bench, save for a few heroic efforts by Serge, is crap.

                          I can argue Raps in 6 or 7 but I can more easily argue Bucks in 6. Anyone saying Raps in 5 is dreaming in the glow of last night imo. We'll need some degree of resurgence from Danny and Marc and FVV but also a continued good effort and results from Kawhi, Spicy P and Kyle.

                          Somehow hold Giannis to less then God-like numbers and stay home on the shooters. Somehow fix our own 3 pt shooting. Hope the refs have bets on the Raptors for some reason. Take at least one of the first two in Milwaukee.

                          Easy peasy ....
                          Very good pre series post.

                          Give this guy a case of Ambassador Reserve and throw in a couple of Space Barley bottles as chasers.

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                          • #28
                            Scraptor wrote: View Post
                            I think we have the pieces to slow down Giannis that the Celtics did not, and I trust the Bucks' supporting cast less than I trust our bench.

                            Raps in 7. Maybe 6.
                            You trust their supporting cast less than ours!? Are you crazy lol. Have you seen how bad our supporting cast aka bench has been lol
                            I relish negativity and disappointment. It is not healthy. Somebody buy me a pony.

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                            • #29
                              The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post

                              Very good pre series post.

                              Give this guy a case of Ambassador Reserve and throw in a couple of Space Barley bottles as chasers.
                              I just found a dusty original bottle of Sam Adam's Triple Bock in my cellar dating from 1995. ebay suggests it's worth about $200 now. Don't know if I'll ever open it but it should still be good.

                              In honour of cottage opening, I enjoyed a few Muskoka Mad Tom's on the weekend along with some ribs, kabobs and salad looking at the high level lake water.

                              Life can be pretty good if you let it ....

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                              • #30
                                GLF wrote: View Post

                                You trust their supporting cast less than ours!? Are you crazy lol. Have you seen how bad our supporting cast aka bench has been lol
                                I was being hyperbolic, but I do think their supporting cast--while talented--is extremely inconsistent.

                                I watched Eric Bledsoe and Khris Middleton all season. Both of them were super unreliable. Bledsoe is not a good shooter and Middleton is streaky as hell. Moreso this season than last.

                                Mirotic is solid but I feel like we can defend him. Same goes for Lopez. Brogdon is just coming back from injury.

                                I am willing to bet that Bucks fans are going to be gnashing their teeth about some of these guys come the middle of the series.

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