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Game 1: Brooklyn Nets 94 - Toronto Raptors 87 (Nets 1-0)

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  • Superjudge
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    this guy...he gets it hahahahaha

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  • Puffer
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    Superjudge wrote: View Post
    ....Raps need to hurt someone.....bad..... broken hand for pierce.
    Have to call you out for this one. Asking for a Raptor to break Pierce's hand is a gross over reaction to the situation the team finds itself in. Pierce had a hot run in the fourth and doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect. I think a couple or three dislocated fingers on his shooting hand would be sufficient.

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  • Superjudge
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    Heh.....

    although there are other teams involved, I am not even remotely surprised that the Raps play tomorrow, and two other Saturday games go tonight..... Advantage, early in a series, for the Nets old as dirts..... yep, the other teams will have that gap...... AT THE END OF THE SERIES.

    its clear that getting to a young team early and often can derail them badly. So, take them out of rhythm with tick tacks in the first quarter, but keep the fouls shots even... (thats key). make sure old grizzles are rested for the critical opening games...... and by all means, put them whistles away in the fourth, the one quarter that the raps dominate with their willingness to get to the rim.

    Add to that a simple little time clock malfunction the theoretically wouldnt bother the 40 year olds, but would play havoc to kids already freaking out.....and there you have it, an air tight influence on a series that nobody can truly prove.


    Raps need to hurt someone.....bad..... broken hand for pierce.

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  • rocwell
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    By the way:


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  • Puffer
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    consmap wrote: View Post
    With the virginity finally gone, we should be able to confidently penetrate and finish when the next time comes around.
    You've got the seed of an idea here. When I see men pooling their efforts in a double pump to finally break through, I know an exciting climax is assured.

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  • consmap
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    Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    I think it was because of the playoffs, everybody tried to do too much. Especially in the beginning on offence, Amir tried a putback dunk on the first possesion instead of actually grabbing it. He was really jumpy and with the virginity finally gone, i think we should be solid come tueday
    With the virginity finally gone, we should be able to confidently penetrate and finish when the next time comes around.

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  • yabadabayolo
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    I'm ok if it is Livingston that is the one that we let hurt us because he isn't likely to drop a quick 10 points on us like JJ/Will/Pierce can (and did).

    Good note on the pump fakes...it was painful and really not like us. I'm hoping that it is just being jumpy and wanting to do too much since it is the playoffs. Casey should have the team straightened out for Tuesday in that regard.
    I think it was because of the playoffs, everybody tried to do too much. Especially in the beginning on offence, Amir tried a putback dunk on the first possesion instead of actually grabbing it. He was really jumpy and with the virginity finally gone, i think we should be solid come tueday

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    Yabadabayolo wrote: View Post
    Livingston had that solid drive and paint jumpshot that he always got in. But since he looks like the weakest link, hiding dd or Vasquez on him is fine. We fell for the pump fake far too many times
    I'm ok if it is Livingston that is the one that we let hurt us because he isn't likely to drop a quick 10 points on us like JJ/Will/Pierce can (and did).

    Good note on the pump fakes...it was painful and really not like us. I'm hoping that it is just being jumpy and wanting to do too much since it is the playoffs. Casey should have the team straightened out for Tuesday in that regard.

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  • BigCamB
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    Joey wrote: View Post
    I saw Lowry guarding DWill much of the game... Even when Ross was in. So again, I wouldn't say at all that Ross "shut down" DWill. Don't get me wrong, I love Ross, but I just didn't see what you are saying happened. And I was at the game watching pretty damn closely.
    I suggest you rewatch the third quarter then ( the only time Ross got a run of minutes). He guarded D-will every single time they got a chance to set up. Occasionally he would pick someone else up in transition but he was guarding Williams, and doing so effectively.

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  • yabadabayolo
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Ahh icic...tempered posts well done. I have no problem being a Ross fanboy myself.

    I think you can hide one of DD or Vasquez on Livingston because you can play off of him a bit because he doesn't stretch out the floor. He also doesn't run off as many screens off the ball. He does use screens when he has the ball but you can go under the screen.

    Pierce provides so many problems. I don't know if there is any one best solution. Fields is a valid option, but I think I like him on JJ more because JJ posts up more.
    Livingston had that solid drive and paint jumpshot that he always got in. But since he looks like the weakest link, hiding dd or Vasquez on him is fine. We fell for the pump fake far too many times

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    BigCamB wrote: View Post
    Re. Bold, I just didn't want to sound like the Ross fanboy I can be he did a fine job defensively whilst he was in. Was a pity about those early soft foul calls.

    It's such a tough matchup for the guards/wings because you can't hide DD or Vasquez on anyone. Even Livingston abused Vasquez multiple times, and I think with his high IQ he could expose DeRozan as well. He's got good ball skills and could exploit his lack of lateral quickness too. I like Ross on D-Will, he doesn't have the speed to blow by Terrence..but then that means DeRozan is on JJ which didn't work. I think Lowry has to guard Williams, at least more than he did. Maybe you can open up with Terrence on him and switch Lowry onto him later like you suggested.

    The Pierce matchup was always going to be the most threatening going into the series and still got no idea what they can do considering Salmons is useless and Fields doesn't seem like a legit option to Casey. Patterson did well for 90% of the game then got burnt at the end.
    Ahh icic...tempered posts well done. I have no problem being a Ross fanboy myself.

    I think you can hide one of DD or Vasquez on Livingston because you can play off of him a bit because he doesn't stretch out the floor. He also doesn't run off as many screens off the ball. He does use screens when he has the ball but you can go under the screen.

    Pierce provides so many problems. I don't know if there is any one best solution. Fields is a valid option, but I think I like him on JJ more because JJ posts up more.

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  • lilmamba_
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    FoxMachine wrote: View Post
    Someone yells "Lets go nets!" in union station after the game 1 loss and raptors fans aren't happy lol

    LOOOOOOOOOOOL xD fuck you, fuck you ,your a piece of shit LOOOOOOOOL gotta love us

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  • Joey
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Ross guarded DWill in the first quarter and the third quarter. During his time guarding him DWill did not score more than 2 points. I also thought he did a great job picking up the ball early in transition. When he came out early in the first the Nets went on a little run that mostly came from poor transition defense.
    I saw Lowry guarding DWill much of the game... Even when Ross was in. So again, I wouldn't say at all that Ross "shut down" DWill. Don't get me wrong, I love Ross, but I just didn't see what you are saying happened. And I was at the game watching pretty damn closely.

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  • BigCamB
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    OldSkoolCool wrote: View Post
    Ross guarded DWill in the first quarter and the third quarter. During his time guarding him DWill did not score more than 2 points. I also thought he did a great job picking up the ball early in transition. When he came out early in the first the Nets went on a little run that mostly came from poor transition defense.



    If DWill didn't do anything when Ross was on the floor...did Ross not "shut him down"...not Ross' fault on some of those foul calls.



    Love these breakdowns. Pretty much affirmed what I thought about Vasquez and DD on defense yesterday. For what Vasquez gave offensively he more than gave up defensively. DD didn't give anything offensively and hurt us defensively as well. Need to figure things out.

    I personally would go with this lineup down the stretch:

    Lowry on DWill
    Ross on JJ or Pierce
    DD on Livingston (hide him)
    Fields on Pierce or JJ
    Val/Amir on KG, depending on who is playing better

    I think that should work very well defensively as well as offensively, Fields ability to handle will make it harder for Pierce to guard him and make him work on both side of the ball. Pierce is able to float guarding Amir because of his strength and ability to just swipe Amir if he gets the ball.
    Re. Bold, I just didn't want to sound like the Ross fanboy I can be he did a fine job defensively whilst he was in. Was a pity about those early soft foul calls.

    It's such a tough matchup for the guards/wings because you can't hide DD or Vasquez on anyone. Even Livingston abused Vasquez multiple times, and I think with his high IQ he could expose DeRozan as well. He's got good ball skills and could exploit his lack of lateral quickness too. I like Ross on D-Will, he doesn't have the speed to blow by Terrence..but then that means DeRozan is on JJ which didn't work. I think Lowry has to guard Williams, at least more than he did. Maybe you can open up with Terrence on him and switch Lowry onto him later like you suggested.

    The Pierce matchup was always going to be the most threatening going into the series and still got no idea what they can do considering Salmons is useless and Fields doesn't seem like a legit option to Casey. Patterson did well for 90% of the game then got burnt at the end.
    Last edited by BigCamB; Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:07 PM.

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  • OldSkoolCool
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    Joey wrote: View Post
    He'll need to play more than 16 minutes and take more than 4 shots for that to happen ...

    And Ross wasn't even guarding DWill that much today... let alone enough to say he 'shut him down'. In my opinion anyway.
    Ross guarded DWill in the first quarter and the third quarter. During his time guarding him DWill did not score more than 2 points. I also thought he did a great job picking up the ball early in transition. When he came out early in the first the Nets went on a little run that mostly came from poor transition defense.

    BigCamB wrote: View Post
    He defended him very well in the third quarter. Obviously he didn't play enough to say he shut someone down though.
    If DWill didn't do anything when Ross was on the floor...did Ross not "shut him down"...not Ross' fault on some of those foul calls.

    consmap wrote: View Post
    Here's a breakdown showing some of the reasons why we were beat.

    Love these breakdowns. Pretty much affirmed what I thought about Vasquez and DD on defense yesterday. For what Vasquez gave offensively he more than gave up defensively. DD didn't give anything offensively and hurt us defensively as well. Need to figure things out.

    I personally would go with this lineup down the stretch:

    Lowry on DWill
    Ross on JJ or Pierce
    DD on Livingston (hide him)
    Fields on Pierce or JJ
    Val/Amir on KG, depending on who is playing better

    I think that should work very well defensively as well as offensively, Fields ability to handle will make it harder for Pierce to guard him and make him work on both side of the ball. Pierce is able to float guarding Amir because of his strength and ability to just swipe Amir if he gets the ball.

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