Small Forward and Backup Center + Vince

[OldSkoolCool]

Oh sorry, which NBA team are you the coach of?

Excuse me?

[imanshumpert]

I like Hayward, but I rather have him as a shooting guard for us. Looks like he's too weak to guard big SF's, and don't think Utah would give him up just like that. Dude is great defensively, lots of potential on that side and offensively needs improvement

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Maybe not but they're paying a dangerous game right now. Paying 8 figures to Favors, going to have to pay 8 figures to Kanter next year as well, might not be able to make a splash on Hayward.

Anyway Gordon isn't a target for me, just a potential option. My main concern is not giving expensive, long-term deals to players who aren't already stars and have zero upside. Even a guy like Z-Bo I wouldn't risk more than 2 years.

[JordanMariam14]

There are only a few players available in free agency that it makes any sense to throw long-term money at: LeBron and Melo are the obvious ones, then you have guys like Hayward and Greg Monroe that could be worth a long-term deal if the price is right and Ujiri feels like they fit in nicely.

I like Hayward, but I rather have him as a shooting guard for us. Looks like he's too weak to guard big SF's, and don't think Utah would give him up just like that. Dude is great defensively, lots of potential on that side and offensively needs improvement

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[Jordan Evans]

I like him.

[MixxAOR]

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[Other Scott]

I'm sorry, but Ross would make a fudging terrible sixth man.

His game is to play off others and catch and shoot, which requires him to play off the ball

6th man types are usually ball dominant guards (ala Crawford/Ginobli/Waiters) that can create their own shot. Ross does not create his shot consistently.

Putting Ross to the bench would be putting him in a position to fail. Pass.

I feel like its important to Ross's development that he learn to create his own shot though. Otherwise his ceiling is probably 3rd banana on a team, not a primary option. It's too easy to take Ross away if a team really needed to do that right now.

It's a tough situation for the Raptors right now because you can't really have both DeRozan and Ross on the floor at the same time against a Joe Johnson type 3. The solution is either to trade one or operate with one off the bench in those situations. A Marvin Williams type will give the flexibility to do the latter of those options.

[e_wheazhy_]

I'm sorry, but Ross would make a fudging terrible sixth man.

His game is to play off others and catch and shoot, which requires him to play off the ball

6th man types are usually ball dominant guards (ala Crawford/Ginobli/Waiters) that can create their own shot. Ross does not create his shot consistently.

Putting Ross to the bench would be putting him in a position to fail. Pass.

Oh sorry, which NBA team are you the coach of?

[OldSkoolCool]

It could reduce Ross's value, or it could raise it, making him the spark off the bench who can score in bunches, a true 6th man, while playing alongside GV, who is a playmaker and can create for and find open teammates (open 3s) and Patterson, who will space the floor and create driving lanes and back door opportunities.

I'm sorry, but Ross would make a fudging terrible sixth man.

His game is to play off others and catch and shoot, which requires him to play off the ball

6th man types are usually ball dominant guards (ala Crawford/Ginobli/Waiters) that can create their own shot. Ross does not create his shot consistently.

Putting Ross to the bench would be putting him in a position to fail. Pass.

[planetmars]

Assuming KL/GV/PP are all back there should be not much wiggle room anyway to land a guy like Deng or Monroe. So that leaves the mid-level exception. If MU dips into the MLE I hope he is really careful with it (and I'm sure he will be).

Those mid-level contracts are a main reason why teams are capped out and have a hard time gaining flexibility. Plus these 'assets' typically don't really make that much of a difference in the win/loss column. A draft pick or a D-leaguer could in many ways do what a mid-level talent does and would cost so much less.

Basically I liked what the Lakers did with their roster last season despite how awful they were.

[e_wheazhy_]

I'm not worried about Ujiri. Just shocked at the suggestions of some posters... were people not around during the BC era?

They were, that's why they're so used to thinking they way they are. Mortgage away our future to get a few percentage points better.

[e_wheazhy_]

I don't see Demar and Ross being successful as a wing pairing in the post season as neither will be able to handle the larger SFs. BUT if you bring in a true small forward, can you relegate Ross to the bench? Will he be happy with that? Won't that automatically reduce his value, similar to the situation in Golden State with the Iggy signing reducing Barnes value?


I think you either trade Ross or Demar in anticipation of bringing that small forward on

OR

You draft a natural SF. That way you can start Demar and Ross together with your Rookie coming off the bench. Hopefully, by the time the playoffs roll around your rookie can fill in the Salmons/Fields role in the playoffs. Also, by coming off the bench if the rookie supplants one of the starters, then he's earned it.

It could reduce Ross's value, or it could raise it, making him the spark off the bench who can score in bunches, a true 6th man, while playing alongside GV, who is a playmaker and can create for and find open teammates (open 3s) and Patterson, who will space the floor and create driving lanes and back door opportunities.

[007]

Colangelo would probably resign salmons for another 10 years

All guaranteed, and if he retires it turns into 1M for the next 15 years.

[yabadabayolo]

This. We should not give someone a big long term deal unless they are a proven star, or someone with a very good amount of potential left.

We should also not sign vets long term and for too much (ala Colangelo)

Colangelo would probably resign salmons for another 10 years

[imanshumpert]

I don't think we have to worry about MU and long term vet deals.

He likes to bring Vets in, but on 1-2 year contracts, and typically on the lower end of things.

I'm not worried about Ujiri. Just shocked at the suggestions of some posters... were people not around during the BC era?

[phiLLy]

I don't think we have to worry about MU and long term vet deals.

He likes to bring Vets in, but on 1-2 year contracts, and typically on the lower end of things.