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thead wrote: View PostHow do you guys feel about starting OG at the 2 next year, using Powell as trade bait and bringing Green back on the MLE to come off the bench?
Lowry,
Anunoby
Leonard
Siakam
Gasol
FVV,
Michael Jordan
Green,
Ibaka
It's why I'm a little frustrated with Pascal's and Danny's inconsistancy. Gasol brings nothing in that regard. Kyle and Ibaka will be a year older....
I love OG but we don't need another all D (which he hasn't even shown yet) no offense starter.
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G__Deane wrote: View Post
I honestly think we need to sign/trade/acquire more firepower. Someone to take the heat off Kawhi to carry the majority of the load most nights.
It's why I'm a little frustrated with Pascal's and Danny's inconsistancy. Gasol brings nothing in that regard. Kyle and Ibaka will be a year older....
I love OG but we don't need another all D (which he hasn't even shown yet) no offense starter.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Doesn't make much sense adding another scorer and then under-use Kawhi. Kawhi carries a high usage. We'll probably try to keep his minutes lower, and give him some rest days (if maybe not so many as this year), so there will be lots of opportunity, but I'd want Siakam stepping into that role, and a guy like OG given a chance to stretch his role as well on those nights. Meanwhile, OG taking Danny's 3 and D spot with the starters is where he fits best. Though if we see more rotation staggering next year instead of bench units, he can fit anywhere.
Inconsistency was our biggest problem this post season and that's something you can't count on ironing itslef out if you have finals aspirations again. We could easily have missed this improbable chip because of it.
Marc is hugely inconsistent when talking offense
Spicy was inconsistent to the point of winning us game one and then later getting benched
Danny was the definition of inconsistent to the point of disappearing
Lowry was even inconsistent but came through when it counted
Serge was there sometimes and horrible others
The bench generally wasn't even good enough to be inconsistent, they were consistently meh.....
Kawhi was the only one that was consistently good to great (honourable mention to FVV but i'm talking the entire post season)....we can't afford "disappearing to good" from too many on the same nights.
I think Kawhi knows we were fortunate to win it all (not lucky) and you don't tempt fate twice if the goal is to be the same as the odds are you don't make the finals again trotting out the same aging inconsistent group again. Get him some more help so that if Siakam continues to improve and OG evolves, it's a bonus, not mandatory. And I think Masai is thinking this way too ....
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thead wrote: View PostHow do you guys feel about starting OG at the 2 next year, using Powell as trade bait and bringing Green back on the MLE to come off the bench?
Lowry,
Anunoby
Leonard
Siakam
Gasol
FVV,
Michael Jordan
Green,
Ibaka
Otherwise yeah Og at the 2 would be great.
I like Michael Jordan off the bench. Nice addition for Raps if we can get him (not to mention all the nice Air Jordan branding we can do here)
Green off the bench would be fine too... I dont know if he's a money guy, maybe if Kawhi stays he will stay for a little less money.
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G__Deane wrote: View Post
I honestly think we need to sign/trade/acquire more firepower. Someone to take the heat off Kawhi to carry the majority of the load most nights.
It's why I'm a little frustrated with Pascal's and Danny's inconsistancy. Gasol brings nothing in that regard. Kyle and Ibaka will be a year older....
I love OG but we don't need another all D (which he hasn't even shown yet) no offense starter.
And I agree we need one more firepower... lots of free agents coming up, not sure if we can get anyone. I like Malcolm Brogden but not sure if he's affordable for Raps but he'd be a nice shooter for us.
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G__Deane wrote: View Post
Well, we disagree there.
Inconsistency was our biggest problem this post season and that's something you can't count on ironing itslef out if you have finals aspirations again. We could easily have missed this improbable chip because of it.
Marc is hugely inconsistent when talking offense
Spicy was inconsistent to the point of winning us game one and then later getting benched
Danny was the definition of inconsistent to the point of disappearing
Lowry was even inconsistent but came through when it counted
Serge was there sometimes and horrible others
The bench generally wasn't even good enough to be inconsistent, they were consistently meh.....
Kawhi was the only one that was consistently good to great (honourable mention to FVV but i'm talking the entire post season)....we can't afford "disappearing to good" from too many on the same nights.
I think Kawhi knows we were fortunate to win it all (not lucky) and you don't tempt fate twice if the goal is to be the same as the odds are you don't make the finals again trotting out the same aging inconsistent group again. Get him some more help so that if Siakam continues to improve and OG evolves, it's a bonus, not mandatory. And I think Masai is thinking this way too ....
I think OG can step into the starting lineup seamlessly with a solid offseason of work with Pascal and Freddy. The real question is how well does Kyle age. He was fantastic this year but he's not going to be this way forever. Hopefully, Fred can continue to improve so he can step into the starting lineup at some point in the next two-three years, but he'll probably never be the kind of player Kyle is. Kyle is an all-time great impact player.
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thead wrote: View PostHow do you guys feel about starting OG at the 2 next year, using Powell as trade bait and bringing Green back on the MLE to come off the bench?
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KeonClark wrote: View PostPeople really talking roster transactions
special breed lol
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Maury wrote: View Post
There is not a single team in history that has 7 consistently great players. That's the way it goes, you have 1-4 guys who can give you offensive output every night. If your goal is to get 8 guys who will consistently give us 20 with great defense it will never happen. Look, we're NBA CHAMPIONS with this "inconsistent" group of guys. That's what it's about, having depth that can rotate its value in any given game.
I think OG can step into the starting lineup seamlessly with a solid offseason of work with Pascal and Freddy. The real question is how well does Kyle age. He was fantastic this year but he's not going to be this way forever. Hopefully, Fred can continue to improve so he can step into the starting lineup at some point in the next two-three years, but he'll probably never be the kind of player Kyle is. Kyle is an all-time great impact player.
We have ONE consistently good to great player. We have several who are consistently decent to good (Kyle and Spicy P)
The rest are terribly inconsistent and poor to good (FVV, Gasol, Serge, Danny) only on sporadic nights and the good is sometimes few and far between.
You can't count on everyone to somehow step it up, you need one more to be the Robin to Kawhi's Batman the majority of games.....consistently. Let Pascal's continued development, OG's comeback and FVV's bottling the magic be the icing on the cake (none of which are guarantedd). Let's not rest on our chip and unilaterally decide this group can do it again, Lowry and Gasol and Green won't get any older, the West just got easier etc.
Again, jmo but I think Masai knows this as well. It won't surprise me at all if there is more tinkering than you'd expect.
Hey we just won a CHAMPIONSHIP. We can debate this all Summer!
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Not sure where to put this but some interesting stuff in here.....
Kevin Durant's injury is proof: Athletes need their own doctors | Etan Thomas | Sport | The GuardianThroughout my NBA career, I watched too many teammates pay dearly for playing through pain at the urging of doctors who put the interests of the team before the welfare of the athlete
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