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  • #46
    DanH wrote: View Post
    There are several ways to increase salary, but two big ones. First is trades - with things like trade exceptions, and the ability to bring back 125% of what you send out, if you are sending out enough, you can increase your cap very quickly.

    Second, and probably more applicable to the Raptors, is raises for current players. For example, if we spend up to the cap this summer by re-signing our own free agents, and use the MLE, we could be about 5-10M clear of the tax. The following summer, we are due to give raises to Ross and JV (and Vasquez and JJ if we want to keep them). Just JV, for example, will probably get a raise from his current <4M to 12M+. Do that for a few guys and you hit the tax quick. Now, the summer after next is actually a different case, since the cap will explode and the tax level will be very high. So we'll probably still be clear of the tax. But that is how you increase salary to that proportion.
    Thanks DanH, I was hoping you'd be the one to answer.

    One more though, how did Brooklyn end up something like 40 million over the cap in 2013? That doesn't seem feasible on just the Garnett and Pierce trade and a couple other little things...
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    • #47
      KeonClark wrote: View Post
      Thanks DanH, I was hoping you'd be the one to answer.

      One more though, how did Brooklyn end up something like 40 million over the cap in 2013? That doesn't seem feasible on just the Garnett and Pierce trade and a couple other little things...
      They were the last ones to be able to use the Keith Bogans loophole, as I call it. Used to be, any player you still held rights to, you could sign-and-trade them. Nowadays they have to have played for you the previous season. Anyway, this lets a team that is already way over the cap create artificial salary to send out in a trade. So incoming salary is 125% of the outgoing - but a big chunk of the outgoing is new sign-and-traded players, so your salary increases dramatically. Combine that with them giving Lopez his max when he came off his rookie deal, and you've got a gigantic payroll.
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      • #48
        If we were to offer an RFA a two year deal and he signed, would the matching team be able to do anything to increase years or would they have to match for 2?

        Also do the contracts have to be identical (bonuses, options, clauses)?

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        • #49
          Bonus Jonas wrote: View Post
          If we were to offer an RFA a two year deal and he signed, would the matching team be able to do anything to increase years or would they have to match for 2?

          Also do the contracts have to be identical (bonuses, options, clauses)?
          Everything is identical, including number of years.
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          • #50
            DanH wrote: View Post
            Everything is identical, including number of years.
            So couldn't we offer Wiggins a huge 1 year deal(his max) when he becomes an RFA, and assuming he would wanna play for us, he can sign without being worried about the risk of signing a QO?

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            • #51
              Bonus Jonas wrote: View Post
              So couldn't we offer Wiggins a huge 1 year deal(his max) when he becomes an RFA, and assuming he would wanna play for us, he can sign without being worried about the risk of signing a QO?
              Can't offer 1 year deals to RFA's. Minimum two years (options don't count either, so any option would have to be additional years). For guys a team wants to sign to a max deal, the minimum becomes three years (by extending a special max QO).
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              • #52
                DanH wrote: View Post
                Can't offer 1 year deals to RFA's. Minimum two years (options don't count either, so any option would have to be additional years). For guys a team wants to sign to a max deal, the minimum becomes three years (by extending a special max QO).
                Makes sense, smart rule by the NBA.

                So our best chance to sign an RFA that wants to play for us is to convince him to take the QO or offer a near max 2 year deal.


                I've heard of players forcing their team into sign and trading them, is that mainly UFA's or RFA's and how does the player do that?

                Is it when a UFA wants the max so he approaches his current team and tells them he wants to get traded to a specific team after signing his max so that he gets his money but the current team doesn't lose him without getting anything in return?

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                • #53
                  Bonus Jonas wrote: View Post
                  Makes sense, smart rule by the NBA.

                  So our best chance to sign an RFA that wants to play for us is to convince him to take the QO or offer a near max 2 year deal.


                  I've heard of players forcing their team into sign and trading them, is that mainly UFA's or RFA's and how does the player do that?

                  Is it when a UFA wants the max so he approaches his current team and tells them he wants to get traded to a specific team after signing his max so that he gets his money but the current team doesn't lose him without getting anything in return?
                  Usually it's UFA's. With RFA's, the player would need to be a malcontent who would sulk his way out of town if not traded. Rare is the player who does that and is also a player you would want to acquire.
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                  • #54
                    DanH wrote: View Post
                    Usually it's UFA's. With RFA's, the player would need to be a malcontent who would sulk his way out of town if not traded. Rare is the player who does that and is also a player you would want to acquire.
                    Makes sense, thanks.

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                    • #55
                      DanH wrote: View Post
                      Usually it's UFA's. With RFA's, the player would need to be a malcontent who would sulk his way out of town if not traded. Rare is the player who does that and is also a player you would want to acquire.
                      I'd take Wiggans if he sulked his way out of his current situation to come to Toronto.

                      Thats a special case, a matter of national security!!!!

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                      • #56
                        Superjudge wrote: View Post
                        I'd take Wiggans if he sulked his way out of his current situation to come to Toronto.

                        Thats a special case, a matter of national security!!!!
                        Sure, but I don't think he has it in him.
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                        • #57
                          How much cap space will we have at the start of the offseason?
                          The name's Bond, James Bond.

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                          • #58
                            007 wrote: View Post
                            How much cap space will we have at the start of the offseason?
                            Technically none. Since we will have loads of cap holds for our free agents.

                            But we can waive all our rights and have about 16M in cap space, depending on the exact figure for the cap.
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                            • #59
                              So if Masai decides he doesn't want Lou back, he can waive him and POOF cap appears?
                              The name's Bond, James Bond.

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                              • #60
                                007 wrote: View Post
                                So if Masai decides he doesn't want Lou back, he can waive him and POOF cap appears?
                                Waive his rights, but yes.
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