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  • #16
    stooley wrote: View Post
    I don't get that part. If Vince is on contract for 2 years, each at 3 mill, we should be looking at 16M then right?

    And if we trade Novak for an expiring, we'd have 19.5M right?
    Sorry, yes. Although I doubt we could get him for that.
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    • #17
      CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
      Good starting point for Toronto's team salary position, currently and into the future. Note that you can hover over each player to see details about his contract (ie: the dates by which decisions need to be made about Salmons & Hanbrough).

      http://data.shamsports.com/content/p...es/raptors.jsp
      Sham's the man. That's where I get all my info.
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      • #18
        DanH wrote: View Post
        Sham's the man. That's where I get all my info.
        Makes you wonder why the NBA doesn't provide that sort of info, in an official capacity.


        Another good site for people looking for information on the status of future draft picks, including the conditions placed on them:

        http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dra...rafts/detailed

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        • #19
          CalgaryRapsFan wrote: View Post
          Makes you wonder why the NBA doesn't provide that sort of info, in an official capacity.


          Another good site for people looking for information on the status of future draft picks, including the conditions placed on them:

          http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dra...rafts/detailed
          should we add useful resources to Q&A thread?

          shot charts/lineup stats: http://vorped.com/bball/

          quarter splits: http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=202685

          player-season finder (advanced search, b-ref): http://www.basketball-reference.com/...psl_finder.cgi

          upcoming free agents: http://hoopshype.com/free_agency.htm
          "Bruno?
          Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
          He's terrible."

          -Superjudge, 7/23

          Hope you're wrong.

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          • #20
            stooley wrote: View Post
            should we add useful resources to Q&A thread?

            shot charts/lineup stats: http://vorped.com/bball/

            quarter splits: http://stats.nba.com/playerStats.html?PlayerID=202685

            player-season finder (advanced search, b-ref): http://www.basketball-reference.com/...psl_finder.cgi

            upcoming free agents: http://hoopshype.com/free_agency.htm
            There's actually already a stickied thread designed to do just that!

            http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/forum...Fan-Essentials

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            • #21
              as a follow up on what Butch Carter said, here's what he wrote (although this is more about what Casey has to do). Good read

              http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...in-at-the-end/

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              • #22
                Jclaw wrote: View Post
                as a follow up on what Butch Carter said, here's what he wrote (although this is more about what Casey has to do). Good read

                http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/n...in-at-the-end/
                Hmm. Good article and I definitely agree with most of what was said there.

                I'd also add that it seems like play calling is one of the easier areas to improve if the coach can wrap his head around it.
                "Bruno?
                Heh, if he is in the D-league still in a few years I will be surprised.
                He's terrible."

                -Superjudge, 7/23

                Hope you're wrong.

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                • #23
                  I hear Michael Jordan is a free agent!

                  Hakeem Olajuwon too

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                  • #24
                    ideal offseason would include

                    Draft Rodney Hood (20), Bogdan Bogdanovic (37) & Thanasis Antetokounmpo (59)
                    Resign Lowry, Vasquez
                    Sign Greg Monroe making Amir a trade chip or backup & PP expendable or back-up
                    Buyout Salmons & Hansborough
                    Waive Stone & Buycks...Sign Kabongo as a project.
                    Somehow dump Fields & Hayes brutal contracts
                    Sign Vince Carter

                    everything else is just a matter of moving chess pieces around.
                    Last edited by RepTdot; Thu May 8, 2014, 04:21 PM.

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                    • #25
                      RepTdot wrote: View Post
                      ideal offseason would include

                      Draft Rodney Hood (20), Bogdan Bogdanovic (37) & Thanasis Antetokounmpo (59)
                      Resign Lowry, Vasquez
                      Sign Greg Monroe making Amir a trade chip or backup & PP expendable or back-up
                      Buyout Salmons & Hansborough
                      Waive Stone & Buycks...Sign Kabongo as a project.
                      Somehow dump Fields & Hayes brutal contracts
                      Sign Vince Carter

                      everything else is just a matter of moving chess pieces around.
                      Why Myck?

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                      • #26
                        Did Michael Jordan put up great numbers off the bench for a playoff team last year? What about Hakeem?


                        You know who did?
                        9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum

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                        • #27
                          Raptor Jesus wrote: View Post
                          Why Myck?
                          I've got a soft spot for him...he was a top 5 projected lottery pick before he got screwed by the NCAA, he's a talented, hometown Toronto kid that deserves a second chance & I believe that the hometown raptors should be the one giving it to him. Buycks was looked at as a project...i'd rather give that shot to a former projected lottery pick from Toronto that clearly has talent and could be a real contributor & I have a feeling will be a steal in the long run
                          Last edited by RepTdot; Thu May 8, 2014, 05:32 PM.

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                          • #28
                            KeonClark wrote: View Post
                            Did Michael Jordan put up great numbers off the bench for a playoff team last year? What about Hakeem?


                            You know who did?
                            Keon Clark?

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                            • #29
                              Great Thread ... I think we learned a lot about our players in this season and in the play offs. We have a great core of young guys but some of them have some REAL CEILINGS ... I know everyone wants to be patient and wants to develop this core of guys and ... but lets face it, the ceiling is there and does not matter how patient we are, how slow we take things, REALITY will not change.

                              Ross: He is not a starting caliber SF in this league and will never be an elite SF in this league. You can wait 5 more years and give him all the oppurtunities in the world but it will not happen. However, he will be a great guy off the bench , 6th man type of guy in a very good and championship level team.

                              Amir Johnson: He is not a starting caliber PF in this league and will never be an elite PF in this league. He is a GREAT first big off the bench and he can play that role even in a championship team.

                              Patterson: He is not a starting caliber PF in this league and will never be an elite PF in this league. He is a GREAT 2nd big off the bench.

                              This is the ceiling for these guys, the best case scenario ... So what does this mean ??

                              Big holes in SF, PF and back up C.

                              My expectation are as follow:

                              MU needs to address 2 of these issues this off season ... This can be true FAs or trade ... but it has to get down if we want to make it far ( East Finals) next year and be a serious PLAYER in the FAs of 2016.

                              If we want a big star in 2016, we need to make it to East Finals next year and with Ross and Amir and 2Pat, as our starters, we will not.

                              So address 2 of these issues these off season and leave SF or PF position for that SUPER STAR that we all hope to get in 2016.

                              Next, Draft smart ... He needs to show us he is able to draft that deep in the first round a useable player. This is where this team is going to be for next few years and enough of wasting draft picks on Joey Graham, Charlie V and ... type players.

                              Take a page from Spurs' book and draft SMART ...

                              DO NOT OVER SPEND on Lowry and especially DO NOT over spent on Vasquez. You will need that money in 2016 ... Do not get stuck in the no man's land of mediocrity.

                              Move some of these SHIT contracts even if it means for 2nd round picks: Fields, Novak and Hayes ...


                              These are my expectations and anything less than that and it will be a F for MU in my book.

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                              • #30
                                Realistic Expectations:

                                1. See these guys brought back....

                                PG: Lowry, Vasquez
                                SG: DeRozan
                                SF: Ross
                                PF: Amir, Patterson
                                C: JV

                                ..... with Lowry, Patterson, and Vasquez all brought back on fair contracts and preferably front loaded (no more than $18M on average for all 3).

                                2. Live with reality likely stuck with Novak, Hayes, and Fields - with Novak having highest trade value. Hayes and Fields, no biggie as they expire in 2015, but trading Novak would be a plus.

                                3. See MLSE pony up to acquire long term assets. There are no free agent prizes on Raptors horizon this summer. Use team option salaries of Salmons, Hansbrough, Buycks, and Stone to stock the cupboards with players on rookie deals, 2014 draft picks, or future draft picks in exchange for some nasty contracts that expire in 2014-15 (Lin, Asik, Boozer, most of the Sacramento Kings, etc.).


                                Predictions:

                                1. Raptors add another first round draft pick in 2014.

                                2. None of 'the core' are traded. We are officially on the Indiana Pacers road to glory - minus the headcases and drama.

                                3. Al-Farouq Aminu is signed via free agency.

                                4. Nobody over 25 is brought in by Masai for next season.


                                Dream Acquisition:

                                1. Building towards Kevin Durant in 2016.

                                2. If Durant fails, enough flexibility to be able to offer a maximum contract (only to a deserving player, of course) and enough assets to trade for one (here is to awful 2016 seasons for the Nuggets and Knicks!).



                                Nothing drastic above because, unless Masai has truly pulled the wool over my eyes, I don't expect anything drastic. Everyone is happy to hold hands and sing, "Inch by inch, row by row, gonna make this franchise grow." That might not be a bad plan considering the last 20 years.

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