Off-Season Realistic Expectations / Predictions / probably devolve dream acquisitions

[007]

Basically needs to become Kevin Love.

Yes! Only way he will be a very good PF is if he turns into Kevin Love!

[Jamshid]

Does no one else think it's possible that 2Pat could develop into a very good starting PF in this league?

No, He has been in the league for a while and has never made the impact that was one would expect from a very good starting caliber player in NBA . I think the best anyone can hope for is a solid bench player type of player ...

[thead]

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

If you want shorter term two year deals it will be MORE expensive, because the tradeoff for long term security is short term $.

[Bendit]

Does no one else think it's possible that 2Pat could develop into a very good starting PF in this league?

It's not so much a skills thing as much as it's a size one. His listed size is 6' 9"/235 lbs. This is a classic tweener sizing and was a consideration in his drafting. He can be a Shane Battier/glue type/important piece on a good team but imo could not go up against top flight PFs or SFs for any substantial time. The great character person intangible makes him even more important to be retained.

[MACK11]

Does no one else think it's possible that 2Pat could develop into a very good starting PF in this league?

He should be you're ideal 6th or 7th man getting between 20-25 MPG

[NoPropsneeded]

It's not so much a skills thing as much as it's a size one. His listed size is 6' 9"/235 lbs. This is a classic tweener sizing and was a consideration in his drafting. He can be a Shane Battier/glue type/important piece on a good team but imo could not go up against top flight PFs or SFs for any substantial time. The great character person intangible makes him even more important to be retained.

What? the league is getting smaller and smaller 2Pat is much bigger than your run of the mill PF these days. He easily weighs more than 235, dude is built like a brick house. He doesn't seem like a tweener to me at all, he's a natural mobile 4 that has the potential to guard 3 and 4's effectively.

[white men can't jump]

What? the league is getting smaller and smaller 2Pat is much bigger than your run of the mill PF these days. He easily weighs more than 235, dude is built like a brick house. He doesn't seem like a tweener to me at all, he's a natural mobile 4 that has the potential to guard 3 and 4's effectively.

I don't know about that. His size is pretty average, including his strength. He is fairly strong, but not overpoweringly so where he actually has much of a power game or great ability to bang down low. I definitely wouldn't say he's built like a brick house. He does struggle to guard low-post PFs with strength, and he does struggle to consistently box out players with size.

His mobility is his biggest asset. It makes him a good hedge man, and defender on big 3s or stretch 4s.

[MACK11]

What? the league is getting smaller and smaller 2Pat is much bigger than your run of the mill PF these days. He easily weighs more than 235, dude is built like a brick house. He doesn't seem like a tweener to me at all, he's a natural mobile 4 that has the potential to guard 3 and 4's effectively.

The prototypical PF in the NBA is 6'10" 245lbs

2PAT has alright size but he's not much bigger then the usual PF like you're stating

[NoPropsneeded]

I don't know about that. His size is pretty average, including his strength. He is fairly strong, but not overpoweringly so where he actually has much of a power game or great ability to bang down low. I definitely wouldn't say he's built like a brick house. He does struggle to guard low-post PFs with strength, and he does struggle to consistently box out players with size.

His mobility is his biggest asset. It makes him a good hedge man, and defender on big 3s or stretch 4s.

Well i guess its cause he's young. Most of his strength is upper body, he doesn't have those Chuck hayes tree stump legs so he gets pushed off sometimes. But i'd say he could bang with most PF's down low, he just needs to work on his post D and power game down low. He relies too much on his jumpshot at times

[NoPropsneeded]

The prototypical PF in the NBA is 6'10" 245lbs

2PAT has alright size but he's not much bigger then the usual PF like you're stating

Where are you getting this from?

[007]

2Pat is a perfect sixth man.

I also think Amir could be a perfect sixth man.

But can one of them be a starter on a contender?

[stooley]

2Pat is a perfect sixth man.

I also think Amir could be a perfect sixth man.

But can one of them be a starter on a contender?

I think Amir can. Easily. He just needs the right C.

Amir is a defensive specialist who excels at every part of the game, including the ones the boxscore doesn't count, except for scoring.

I think Amir/Brook Lopez or Amir/Al Jefferson is a title front court.

[MACK11]

Do you guys think Salmons + Handsbro could get us a late 1st rounder this year?

[Raptorsnz]

Do you guys think Salmons + Handsbro could get us a late 1st rounder this year?

Na, there's no reason why anyone would want them. You could easily go after better players in free agency.

In saying that though I'll always keep 3 teams available; Knicks, Kings and Pistons. They're dumb enough to do it.

[yabadabayolo]

Do you guys think Salmons + Handsbro could get us a late 1st rounder this year?

never in a million years.

however we could absorb a shit contact along with a late first for salmons because of his buyout