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  • imanshumpert
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    Can't really use history as an argument because there has also never been a team that has won the first overall pick in 3 out of 4 years. The Cavs have had terrible draft luck despite their fortunes. They have pressure from their owner to get into the playoffs. It's not so inconceivable in my opinion that they trade that pick for veteran talent despite how strong the draft is. Chances are slim but out of all the lottery teams the Cavs are probably the only team I can think of that might consider moving that pick for immediate help.
    Actually you can use history, because it tells you the value that is typically placed on a #1 overall selection.

    I'll relent that we MIGHT be able to get the #1 overall, but it would involve us trading more than makes sense for us. Probably starting with Jonas AND DeRozan.

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  • planetmars
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    imanshumpert wrote: View Post
    The last time the 1st overall pick was traded was over 20 years ago in the 1993 draft, and the trade was:

    #1 pick (Chris Webber) for #3 pick, and 3 future 1st rounders.


    Aside from that I couldn't find a draft where the 1st overall pick has been straight up traded to another team. Teams have traded it by accident before (Clippers traded it mid-season to Cleveland when they got Kyrie) though.

    Basically we're not getting that pick. You guys should save yourself the trouble and stop fantasizing about it because it's not going to happen. I could see the pick being traded, but that would be for a superstar or maybe a trade with Philly/Milwaukee or one of the other teams with very high picks.

    Can't really use history as an argument because there has also never been a team that has won the first overall pick in 3 out of 4 years. The Cavs have had terrible draft luck despite their fortunes. They have pressure from their owner to get into the playoffs. It's not so inconceivable in my opinion that they trade that pick for veteran talent despite how strong the draft is. Chances are slim but out of all the lottery teams the Cavs are probably the only team I can think of that might consider moving that pick for immediate help.

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  • nubreed000
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    Meh...let them draft Wiggins. It will be that much easier to sign him when he's a FA if the guy pans out. The organization is breaking records for incompetence (4 first overall picks in how many years? And absolutely nothing to show for it) so I doubt Wiggins will want to stay there if they continue their loser streak and the Raps are still a threat.

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  • imanshumpert
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    The last time the 1st overall pick was traded was over 20 years ago in the 1993 draft, and the trade was:

    #1 pick (Chris Webber) for #3 pick, and 3 future 1st rounders.


    Aside from that I couldn't find a draft where the 1st overall pick has been straight up traded to another team. Teams have traded it by accident before (Clippers traded it mid-season to Cleveland when they got Kyrie) though.

    Basically we're not getting that pick. You guys should save yourself the trouble and stop fantasizing about it because it's not going to happen. I could see the pick being traded, but that would be for a superstar or maybe a trade with Philly/Milwaukee or one of the other teams with very high picks.

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  • Shantz
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    mcHAPPY wrote: View Post
    They fired the guy who made most of those poor decisions.

    We'll see what happens though!
    True, but those decisions were still motivated by Dan Gilbert's push for quicker contention.

    I still doubt they move the pick unless they are confident that getting Love brings LeBron back...but Gilbert is the wildcard in the situation.

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  • mcHAPPY
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    Nilanka wrote: View Post
    But you're assuming Cleveland is an intelligently run franchise, which they've debunked time and time again

    If there's one team likely to screw themselves over, it's Cleveland. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them trade the pick.
    They fired the guy who made most of those poor decisions.

    We'll see what happens though!

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  • Nilanka
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    RandomGuy wrote: View Post
    No chance, not with the talent this draft provides. Cleveland would not do this.
    But you're assuming Cleveland is an intelligently run franchise, which they've debunked time and time again

    If there's one team likely to screw themselves over, it's Cleveland. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see them trade the pick.

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  • RandomGuy
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    No chance, not with the talent this draft provides. Cleveland would not do this.

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  • Fully
    started a topic Any chance the Cavs move the first overall?

    Any chance the Cavs move the first overall?

    For the better part of the last 12 months, we have heard that the Cleveland Cavaliers were extremely motivated to end their post-Lebron playoff drought.

    Proclaiming that they wanted to make the playoffs in 2014, they went out and threw money at Jarrett Jack and Andrew Bynum in free agency last summer. When that incarnation of the Cavalier roster fell flat on it's face, they traded future assets away for Luol Deng and Spencer Hawes throughout the winter in an attempt to get things back on track and secure one of the final playoff spots in a historically weak Eastern conference. Still, it was not good enough.

    Fast foward to last night and Cleveland has once again fallen ass backwards into picking first overall in the NBA draft despite doing practically everything wrong for the past year and change. They signed the wrong guys in free agency (Jack has gone from a 6th man of the year type player to a horrible contract in the span of a year; Bynum was accused of 'sabotaging' their own practices, an NBA first as far as I know), they drafted the wrong guys (Bennett has serious work to do to absolve himself from 'worst first overall pick in history' discussion), signed the wrong coach, and the assets they spent on mid-season pick ups appear to be sunk costs as neither Hawes or Deng are expected to re-sign there, nor did they help them achieve any sort of tangible success.

    The question I have now is whether the Cavaliers would consider moving the first overall pick in their quest to get back to the playoffs as soon as possible, and if they would, should the Raptors get in on the bidding and what type of package would it take to get a deal done?
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