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Where Do The Raptors Rank In The East?
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bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
Nows a great time to settle some of the age old RR debates once and for all. Some of the more contorversial one i can think of.
Where does Vince rank? Lowry, Kawhi, Vince
Should his # be retired and if so does it get retired 1st? No, and Lowry first without a doubt. You don't retire a jersey for some nebulous "put Canada on the map" and winning a dunk contest and nothing zilch nada else.... too many fans just remember him as their favourite players in their teens.
Will Masai leave? No, he has a great thing going here and he knows it. Salary, prestige, a whole country's attention, carte blanche with the team, whatever budge he wants. He's not going anywhere.
Was vince or the organization more at fault? Lots of blame on both sides, doesn't justify in the least how he screwed the team over, his teammates over and the fans over.
How good would we have been in Tmac stayed? Multiple finals, possibly a chip. Would two players who never won a damn thign on their own, have won it all together? No guarantees as it didn't work for TMac and Yao Ming.
Is Bosh a HOFer? No, but I think the HOF entry bar is too low anyways for a true hall of fame vs a sports museum for fans favourite players.
Should J.V get a ring? Of course Because it's an option for the teams, Kyle baited him like he was getting it, he contributed in a big way to a championship season....and he's one of the most likable Raptors in history lol. I'm at peace with him not getting one .... but still gonna lobby for him
Why did casey start Handsbrough in a playoff game to guard paul pierce? Case gonna Case
How good is McCaw? Great .... at eating salty crackers
Jokic vs Embiid? Different animals. Both could be truly intimidating specimens and both have to somehow stay healthy. I don't think we've seen the best of either of them.
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bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
Nows a great time to settle some of the age old RR debates once and for all. Some of the more contorversial one i can think of.
Where does Vince rank? Up there. As the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad press. He made us shine at a time where we could have gone the way of the Grizzlies. He inspired a country of young basketball stars. He gave us whatever "it factor" we had at that time. No amount of later immaturity changes that.
Should his # be retired and if so does it get retired 1st? I know it's not the MLB where they go to the HOF wearing team caps but would you not be upset if he went in wearing a Nets jersey. I'd say 60/40 for getting retired. But if it does, he'll be first...he'll retire way before anyone else (I think)
Will Masai leave? Eventually but not laterally. I think he'd leave for the league office or for the African league
Was vince or the organization more at fault? Wimpy answer but...tied
How good would we have been in Tmac stayed? Two HOF'ers on one team in their prime? Usually works out well
Is Bosh a HOFer? He rode the coat tails of enough HOF'ers that he'll get there. If Kyle deserves is it's hard to say Bosh doesn't
Should J.V get a ring? Yes. Can I answer this question more than once? So pissed off I'm missing his return game
Why did casey start Handsbrough in a playoff game to guard paul pierce? Why did Casey (insert various lines here)?
How good is McCaw? Better than everyone thinks (how's that for a low bar)
Jokic vs Embiid? ​​​​​​​Jokic is strangely more durable and often remembers to play like he is a hulking centre
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bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
I figured that the thoughts on those 3 would be pretty unanimous.
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golden wrote: View Post
Tank Commander & amateur RR feature writer, Tim W, has never shown his face around these parts since "Tank for Wiggins". From what I understand he's operating under a new identity.... Tim L.
Lots of controversial posters that just went away when the Raptors started doing well. Many who had to create burner accounts since they kept getting suspended. It's when we actually had mods watching this site every day.
I was on the #Tank4Wiggins train.. it was the season when Masai traded Gay & Bargnani and had a Lowry trade lined up. Would have been stupid in hindsight.. but on the other hand, Masai would have found a way to make it a success anyway.
I'm sure there is an alternate dimension where the Raps did trade Lowry yet we still win a chip anyway. Would be kind of cool to see how things played out in that dimension.
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golden wrote: View Post
Only because Chr1s1anL is no longer on this board. lol. I'm pretty sure that no single topic & player generated more posts on this board than DeRozan. At least not during my time here. That said, people can probably still make a good argument ranking DeRozan over VC, Kawhi and Bosh on the all-time greatest Raptors list. Maybe that should be a question.
Kawhi has to be above DeRozan and just behind Lowry. It was only one year, but we won. That's what it's all about. You've got one ring and one Finals MVP in franchise history. Better have that guy top 2, actually have to make the case for him to not be #1."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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S.R. wrote: View Post
I would put DeRozan over Vince and Bosh. Vince had a bigger impact outside of Toronto, but for the Raptors organization DeRozan committed for years, loved the city, and helped things stabilize after years of turmoil - ups and downs that were mostly downs because the previous guys like Vince and Bosh quit and left. DeRozan helped lay the groundwork for the championship team and was here for a lot more winning than Vince or Bosh were here for (that said - Lowry has always mattered more to winning than DD, that should be pretty clear).
Kawhi has to be above DeRozan and just behind Lowry. It was only one year, but we won. That's what it's all about. You've got one ring and one Finals MVP in franchise history. Better have that guy top 2, actually have to make the case for him to not be #1.
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Sonny wrote: View Post
So playoffs June-July-August. NBA Finals in mid August. One month off, then training camp starts in October?
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