I want to make a poll and see how many people here think that Raptors have the assets to acquire the #1 pick this year and how many people think we should acquire it ?
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Can or should Raptors make a push to acquire the #1 Pick this Year ?
37We have the assets and we should try to get the #1 Pick16.22%6We have the assets but we SHOULD NOT try to get the #1 pick16.22%6We don't have the assets to get the #1 pick67.57%25Tags: None
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Don't even try.
Wait for Wiggins to develop and come here in 5 years or whatever it is, it's better that way, he's already developed and we don't have to suck or give up the core for the draft pick.
If they don't take Wiggins #1 pick does not matter as he is all that matters because when we talk about this pick.
And we can still get him as an FA.Last edited by 007; Thu May 22, 2014, 11:03 PM.The name's Bond, James Bond.
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RaptorsFohEva wrote: View PostDon't even try.
Wait for Wiggins to develop and come here in 5 years or whatever it is, it's better that way, he's already developed and we don't have to suck or give up the core for the draft pick.
If they don't take Wiggins #1 pick does not matter as he is all that matters because when we talk about this pick.
And we can still get him as an FA.
nearly 10-Years down the line?
According to this:
http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm
2-Years Locked in, next 2-Team Options, last year QO.
And then, if a team submits a QO, they're a RFA, meaning they can match.
So...potentially 10-Years?
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We don't have the assets to get it. Not when Minny can dangle Love. Worse yet, making a big push for it could kill the team's chemistry and that chemistry is the best thing they have going for them heading into next year. So just say no to the chase for the first, and maybe fish for smaller deals that could let you move up to take a player that drops to the 8-12 range.
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phiLLy wrote: View PostIf I remember correctly, the earliest we can get Wiggins is:
nearly 10-Years down the line?
According to this:
http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm
2-Years Locked in, next 2-Team Options, last year QO.
And then, if a team submits a QO, they're a RFA, meaning they can match.
So...potentially 10-Years?
Demand a trade Andrew!The name's Bond, James Bond.
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phiLLy wrote: View PostIf I remember correctly, the earliest we can get Wiggins is:
nearly 10-Years down the line?
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phiLLy wrote: View PostIf I remember correctly, the earliest we can get Wiggins is:
nearly 10-Years down the line?
According to this:
http://www.cbafaq.com/scale2011.htm
2-Years Locked in, next 2-Team Options, last year QO.
And then, if a team submits a QO, they're a RFA, meaning they can match.
So...potentially 10-Years?
So I think max 9 years before he's a UFA, and that's assuming Irving leaves or doesn't sign a 5-year max deal if he stays.
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Our only hope is for Wiggins to sulk and pull a Wince, essentially forcing management to trade him.
But the odds of that happening are slim to none.
Look like we'll have to set our sights on the next, yet-to-be-named, Canadian phenom instead....
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If you were eligible for a Max contract would you take it to stay in Cleveland, Milwaukee or even Minnesota?? I wouldn't.....take the QO and leave as a unrestricted free agent at the end of the following season. Those teams are just awful....bad management and a history of wasting player talent.
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special1 wrote: View PostIf you were eligible for a Max contract would you take it to stay in Cleveland, Milwaukee or even Minnesota?? I wouldn't.....take the QO and leave as a unrestricted free agent at the end of the following season. Those teams are just awful....bad management and a history of wasting player talent.
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special1 wrote: View PostIf you were eligible for a Max contract would you take it to stay in Cleveland, Milwaukee or even Minnesota?? I wouldn't.....take the QO and leave as a unrestricted free agent at the end of the following season. Those teams are just awful....bad management and a history of wasting player talent.
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special1 wrote: View PostIf you were eligible for a Max contract would you take it to stay in Cleveland, Milwaukee or even Minnesota?? I wouldn't.....take the QO and leave as a unrestricted free agent at the end of the following season. Those teams are just awful....bad management and a history of wasting player talent.
Secondly, Wiggin's decision will come 5 years from now, and who knows what those teams will look like when that times comes. Letter N just mentioned it, but the Raptors are coming off a similar stretch of mismanagement and letdown. We have one good season and now we're all convinced that we're an emerging destination for NBA stars. Reputations can change very quickly if you're able to find a little success.Last edited by Fully; Fri May 23, 2014, 02:38 PM.
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Fully wrote: View PostThis is a funny comment. For one, it's much, MUCH easier to walk away from millions and millions of dollars in a hypothetical situation than it is to do it in actual practice. You're not the first person to hold a professional athlete to a different standard than we set for ourselves, but let's be honest, it's really hard to walk away from that guaranteed money. There's a reason that we hardly see any player take the QO/UFA route.
Secondly, Wiggin's decision will come 5 years from now, and who knows what those teams will look like then that times comes. Letter N just mentioned it, but the Raptors are coming off a similar stretch of mismanagement and letdown. We have one good season and now we're all convinced that we're an emerging destination for NBA stars. Reputations can change very quickly if you're able to find a little success.
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Making a move to acquire any pick, not just the number 1 pick it one of those crapshoot deals that are high risk, low reward.
Let's say we did have the assets, and it would cost us derozan, JV and tross or another player, the first overall pick would have to replace, not just the skill level and production, but the chemistry and the results of the team we have now to make it worth it.
So we are giving up solid assets with further growth potential for only potential from one player. And that player has to ultimately create a better team in the long run than what we are reasonably sure we will get in the long run from the team we have now.
There is really no player that will change the course of our team that drastically on his own. Looking at the league, lebron is probably the only player who you could put scrubs around, and they could still win multiple playoff rounds.
I will always take a group of players who have performed in the past (even one year) and also have potential, than one player. Let's think championship here.Last edited by BallaBalla; Fri May 23, 2014, 06:05 PM.
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