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DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post
Sure they waited too long to get the best value, but thats really just because they waited for Kawhi. After that the best option was waiting for the season to start imo.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Nah, I think there was a solid window in mid-July if they wanted to make moves. Next window is December, then the deadline. I suspect both markets will be thinner than the mid-July window would have been, but meaty enough to find a worthwhile landing spot for one or two guys if they really want to.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
what do you think will happen
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Unfortunately, looking around the league I don't see a lot of suitors who would both want Ibaka/Gasol for this season and have salary that ends in 2021 that they'd be willing to dump. Best I could see was Boston with Hayward and Miami with Olynyk/Waiters but the Heat basically can't trade any picks because the alternating years are all owed to OKC.
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If the 2020 free agency class wasn't bad enough.. Draymond just signed a $100M extension to stay in GSW. DeMar and Kyle might be the best two possible options left.. which could mean they each get big contracts.
If the Warriors want to have a smaller tax bill next year.. perhaps they wouldn't mind doing a D'Angelo/Kyle swap this deadline? We get the younger PG that is on a long term deal. They get arguably the better guard for this season's playoff run. He then becomes a free agent. Masai gives Lowry one more legit shot at a ring. Trading Lowry would be hard to do.. but that's the type of trade I'd be looking for. Ie, swapping Lowry for a PG of the future.
We could even then bring back Lowry in 2020 if we wanted to. Would be pretty awesome to pull that off. It's not like we would need his Bird Right's to resign him. Just cap space.. which we'll have a lot of.
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I think it would be more likely to move ibaka or gasol for russell than lowry. Either way, it will be predicated on klay looking like he'll return for the playoffs, so the warriors will have to know well in advance and be confidant klay will return, otherwise they likely stand pat with russell and pursue trades in the offseason.
But that is the type of move i expect MU will be looking at. The team has options. If we approach the deadline in pretty good shape, then i imagine we'll be buyers looking to beef up the roster for a title defence. Someone like beal or russell might be targets in that scenario. If we aren't in good shape around the deadline, then we likely approach it as sellers, and try to move those vet expirings for picks and prospects. I know many think the return for those players will be greatly reduced at the deadline, but any contending team that needs another piece to sure up their roster may want to give something up if the chip looks wide open.
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JawsGT wrote: View PostI think it would be more likely to move ibaka or gasol for russell than lowry. Either way, it will be predicated on klay looking like he'll return for the playoffs, so the warriors will have to know well in advance and be confidant klay will return, otherwise they likely stand pat with russell and pursue trades in the offseason.
But that is the type of move i expect MU will be looking at. The team has options. If we approach the deadline in pretty good shape, then i imagine we'll be buyers looking to beef up the roster for a title defence. Someone like beal or russell might be targets in that scenario. If we aren't in good shape around the deadline, then we likely approach it as sellers, and try to move those vet expirings for picks and prospects. I know many think the return for those players will be greatly reduced at the deadline, but any contending team that needs another piece to sure up their roster may want to give something up if the chip looks wide open.
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c-troop wrote: View Post
OR we ship Gasol to GSW, get GSW to send D. Russell to the Nuggets, and see if we can scoop Jamal Murray after his Poison Pill kicks in.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
Why on earth would Denver do this? Jamal Murray is locked up for the next 5 years including this one, is just 22 years old, is pretty much on par with D'Lo and he's not paid that much more than him when his extension starts.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
Why on earth would Denver do this? Jamal Murray is locked up for the next 5 years including this one, is just 22 years old, is pretty much on par with D'Lo and he's not paid that much more than him when his extension starts.Maury wrote: View Post
We should see if Denver will throw in that Jokic guy
D'Lo is GSW's trade chip, and Gasol and/or Ibaka could instantly make them a threat again if Klay can get healthy. Plus they get an expiring contract(s).
If Denver hears that we are sending Gasol+ to the GSW they will most certainly not trade Jokic. They will feel pressure to get better in a hurry.
(I read that post as sarcasm yet found it dismissive and unintelligent.)
If Denver hears we are sending Gasol+ (and/or possible picks) to GSW for D'angelo, Denver might offer up Jamal to us for D'angelo and try to sell us on their Canadian star... because Denver will feel the pressure to get better and their contracts are very similar. They might even offer us picks if we show disinterest.
and truthfully, it is obvious D'Lo is naturally the better point guard, Denver would be practically getting a free upgrade... D'Lo plays better defence, he gets more assists, more points ... he is a true 1/2, not a 2/1
Yet the big draw for the Raptors would be having a Canadian star, which would be a great culture change for the Raps moving forward.
and if we keep FVV it could be a nice line up with Murray at the 2.
I see it as: Gasol* + future first to GSW for D'Lo > D'Lo to the nuggets for Jamal Murray > Jamal Murray to the Raps
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c-troop wrote: View Post
Well, the Warrior's reason for doing it is they don't have much of a defensive presence at the post besides Draymond and WCS and they are well aware of what our bigs could do for them already + Denver has Jokic, Portland has Whiteside, LA has Davis and Cousins, Utah has Gobert, Houston has Capella and they will potentially need a match up for those bigs next year to make it out of the West.
D'Lo is GSW's trade chip, and Gasol and/or Ibaka could instantly make them a threat again if Klay can get healthy. Plus they get an expiring contract(s).
If Denver hears that we are sending Gasol+ to the GSW they will most certainly not trade Jokic. They will feel pressure to get better in a hurry.
(I read that post as sarcasm yet found it dismissive and unintelligent.)
If Denver hears we are sending Gasol+ (and/or possible picks) to GSW for D'angelo, Denver might offer up Jamal to us for D'angelo and try to sell us on their Canadian star... because Denver will feel the pressure to get better and their contracts are very similar. They might even offer us picks if we show disinterest.
and truthfully, it is obvious D'Lo is naturally the better point guard, Denver would be practically getting a free upgrade... D'Lo plays better defence, he gets more assists, more points ... he is a true 1/2, not a 2/1
Yet the big draw for the Raptors would be having a Canadian star, which would be a great culture change for the Raps moving forward.
and if we keep FVV it could be a nice line up with Murray at the 2.
I see it as: Gasol* + future first to GSW for D'Lo > D'Lo to the nuggets for Jamal Murray > Jamal Murray to the Raps
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
D'Lo is not better than Jamal Murray. Your logic here is absolutely abysmal.
The Warriors have zero post defence in a stacked Western Conference.
Sorry, my fetal alcohol syndrome has ruined my ability to interpolate new ideas and understand logical organizational developments.
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Shaolin Fantastic wrote: View Post
D'Lo is not better than Jamal Murray. Your logic here is absolutely abysmal.
Meanwhile, Murray was a playoff stud (115 ORTG) in the West. If Murray continues his growth and was in the East, he could be a fringe all-star like Russell.
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