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Demographic Shift wrote: View Post
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DanH wrote: View Post
Personally I'd be re-signing Lowry to a silly 1 year deal and trying to get him to retire a Raptor on a more reasonable contract thereafter. Keep the team competitive until we try to hit the jackpot with our cap space in 2021.
You can never predict who gets hurt on which contender or if someone wants to pay for extra insurance to get them over the top for a deep run at the trade deadline. So its also possible to see Kyle being moved at the deadline even if the Raps are in it if they get a blow away offer ....My bar for a blow away offer would be
1. a 1st in the teens and expiring ballast
2. an under 25 player on the offering teams roster who is a bona fide NBA rotation player, expiring ballast and a 2nd if the trading team wants the Raps to take back some salary.along with the ballast. . ..
Hey.. Chris Paul and that anchor of a deal got moved. You never know. Kyle is not the player Chris Paul was.. but he is better now than what Chris Paul was when he got moved to OKC.. He has a ring to show for it.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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I'm still not sold on Siakam. Yes, he was great last year....as the 2ND option. This year he's going to be the no. 1. He's going to be the main focal point of the D.
Using the Pittsburgh Steelers as an example. Smith Schuster has been great for Pitts the last couple years as the no.2 receiver behind Antonio Brown. Brown is gone, Smith Schuster is the Steelers no.1 receiver this year. So far he's been a disaster.Mamba Mentality
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The Great One wrote: View PostI'm still not sold on Siakam. Yes, he was great last year....as the 2ND option. This year he's going to be the no. 1. He's going to be the main focal point of the D.
Using the Pittsburgh Steelers as an example. Smith Schuster has been great for Pitts the last couple years as the no.2 receiver behind Antonio Brown. Brown is gone, Smith Schuster is the Steelers no.1 receiver this year. So far he's been a disaster.
Looking more locally at the actual sport we are discussing, what about Oladipo when he was #2 on OKC, and then moved to #1 with Indy and flourished? I'd say that's far more an apt example, wouldn't you?Last edited by Joey; Mon Sep 16, 2019, 02:38 PM.
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It's not like Siakam is a spot-up shooter extraordinaire benefiting mostly from te double-teamed kickouts from Kawhi. And it's not like we have a one-dimensional offense funneling everything through a Pascal post-up or something.
Pascal will face more defensive attention, but his dynamic game - attacking after pulling it out, able to hit the 3, able to make the pass, attacking in transition, midrange, post-up, etc. - isn't that easy to key in on.
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Joey wrote: View Post
The best justification for your hot take that you can come up with is from a completely different Sport that has zero in common with basketball? Really? C'mon man. Do better. Lol
Looking more locally at the actual sport we are discussing, what about Oladipo when he was #2 on OKC, and then moved to #1 with Indy and flourished? I'd say that's far more an apt example, wouldn't you?
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostIt's not like Siakam is a spot-up shooter extraordinaire benefiting mostly from te double-teamed kickouts from Kawhi. And it's not like we have a one-dimensional offense funneling everything through a Pascal post-up or something.
Pascal will face more defensive attention, but his dynamic game - attacking after pulling it out, able to hit the 3, able to make the pass, attacking in transition, midrange, post-up, etc. - isn't that easy to key in on.
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golden wrote: View Post
In defense of T-Rex, Pascal is missing a few key elements that an elite #1 scoring option has these days: the 3-ball, a pull-up jumper and general craftiness (pump-fakes, hesitation moves, step-backs, etc...). He needs those things to attack a set defense. He's still relying a lot on his quickness, athleticism & length, which we saw can be taken away by putting long, athletic defenders on him, sagging off and daring him to shoot. That was as a second option, so it will be worse as a first option.
He's clearly been working on his pull-up this offseason, I'd be pretty surprised if it isn't ready for prime time.
Finally, does he need to be "an elite #1 scoring option" in order to be sold on him? He likely is our 1a option, but he's playing with 3 other allstar-calibre players and a team offense predicated more on depth than the force-feeding of a star player (part of the reason we did so well when Kawhi was out).Last edited by SkywalkerAC; Mon Sep 16, 2019, 03:59 PM.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View PostIt's not like Siakam is a spot-up shooter extraordinaire benefiting mostly from te double-teamed kickouts from Kawhi. And it's not like we have a one-dimensional offense funneling everything through a Pascal post-up or something.
Pascal will face more defensive attention, but his dynamic game - attacking after pulling it out, able to hit the 3, able to make the pass, attacking in transition, midrange, post-up, etc. - isn't that easy to key in on.
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SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
Why would you say that Pascal is missing "the 3-ball" when he shot almost 37% last year (and is just getting started on that front)?
He's clearly been working on his pull-up this offseason, I'd be pretty surprised if it isn't ready for prime time.
Finally, does he need to be "an elite #1 scoring option" in order to be sold on him? He likely is our 1a option, but he's playing with 3 other allstar-calibre players and a team offense predicated more on depth than the force-feeding of a star player (part of the reason we did so well when Kawhi was out).
And this....
Ahhh... the memories....
Pascal's 37% is deceiving. It's mostly on low-volume, wide-open & hilariously un-contested corner 3's, which he struggled with at various times throughout the regular season and playoffs.
Are we banking on Lowry and Gasol to turn the clock back? Yeah, we might be able to get through the regular season on a Wednesday night vs. Charlotte, but those guys all became afraid to shoot when the defense tightened up.... except maybe Ibaka, who has never seen a shot he didn't like.Last edited by golden; Mon Sep 16, 2019, 04:27 PM.
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