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This is my first post and I don't care if people think that makes my opinion inferior but it's w/e.. The Raptors should try and get Wiggins at all costs.. People can judge his results at Kansas but I bet if you put Parker on Kansas and Wiggins on Duke that his numbers would've been better then Parker. I only think this is realistic if Wiggins is available to the Bucks at #2 and it would require a trade with Chicago to even make the offer proposal to the Bucks but as farfetched as this sounds is it really that unrealistic? Bulls are a frontrunner for Melo this offseason and they would like to shed salary to do this. My trade proposal would be Novak, Salmons, and our first 2nd rounder this year for Boozer and both of there 1st rounders at 16 and 19. Bulls get to keep Gibson who they prefer and they can buy out Salmons and Novak is a player they can use on their roster which frees up lots of cap space to sign Melo and I'm pretty sure they got the best shot of landing him due to there coach and core of the Bulls. Assuming this trade goes down we then offer the Bucks (don't get mad at me) DeRozan and all 3 of our 1sts + future 1st for there 2nd overall pick. Why do they do it? Because they're not in a market where they can be shitty for years plus they got The Freak which makes the 3 not a need for them and a roster of 2013 all-star DeRozan, Ilyasova, Knight, more mature Freak, a healthy Larry Sanders, decent 6th because he's not a starter Mayo and you got a Eastern Conference playoff team which is what they want. Why do we do it? Because we get Wiggins who is more then potential he has NBA now game if put in the right situation and Wiggins is a very coachable person and if drafted by the Raptors he would work his ass off he comes from a professional athlete family so he can handle himself professionally. Biggest knock on him is his killer instinct but I bet if he got to play for the Raptors he'd become an assassin. Whoever thinks Lowry won't resign because DeRozan leaves is delusional. If they resign PPat and Vasquez that'll cover DeRozan salary shed, then a starting 5 of Lowry, Ross, Wiggins, Johnson, and Jonas with a rotation of Vasquez PPat and Boozer to backup Jonas I am pretty confident Lowry resigns. I know you're wondering how this fits salary cap wise and here's the thing, it doesn't this is a team we are going to have to pay the luxury tax for. Why? Who cares it's not your money and I bet you if Tim Leiweke knows it means getting Wiggins then they do it.. Just off of media hype alone they'll make there money back it's the easiest way to sellout next year and it actually makes us a relevant story in the NBA next year which is great marketing. And after this year we get Boozer and Hayes off the books which is $$$. Biggest gamble would be doing Chicago trade and Bucks not budging in which case we can use the 3 picks to move up and we gotta eat Boozer for a year but we get a better backup then Hayes and 3 picks which is still powerful. Just my opinion atleast and a lot has to fall in place for this to happen but what do you think? Sorry for this mini novel lol.
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Don't you ever tell us noooooo
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heard of paragraphs my friend?Comment
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So... in the end it's:
Toronto in: Boozer and #2 pick (hopefully Wiggins)
Toronto out: Novak, Salmons, picks #16, 19, 20, 37 and a future first (probably one of the 2016s) and DD.
Novak and Salmons don't matter, but you're giving up 5 draft picks, including 4 first rounders, and DD, for a chance at Wiggins. And trading futures is what has hurt many teams.
If he is gone, what do you do? Pick Embiid, and trade him or JV? Pick Parker, who plays no D?
Trade for Wiggins from the Cavs, which would take maybe TRoss?
Trade DD, a 24 year old all-star?
No. If we get the Boozer trade, bring in the rookies. Cheap bench, which allows for more offseason splashes (KD)The name's Bond, James Bond.Comment
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I tried to read your post but I can't. Paragraphs. Please. You can do better. Make your high school English teacher proud.Comment
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Pick Embiid as long as medicals check out. An athletic 7'1 center with skills. A nobrainer.007 wrote: View Post
Anyway, the trade doesn't make much sense to me, I don't see why Milwaukee would consider it.
PS: one to, welcome to the board. But do use paragraphs. Remember, we are all here for fun. If your post looks like a massive legal text, most of us will run away.Comment
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I think Wiggins is going to kick ass at the next level and is going to set the league on fire, so I'm on board. But if we were going the Wiggins route I really doubt Casey would have been re-hired.Comment
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Holy wall of text batman but seriously we can sign him in free agency once his rookie contract expiresComment
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Ya the Bulls wouldn't give us two first rounders to take boozer's contract. Maybe if we gave them the 20 instead of the 37, but that ruins your next trade. Trading to #1 and keeping all the pieces of our current core is impossible no matter what you do.Comment
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ya my bad bout the paragraphs it does look pretty retarded haha but ya i agree I think the Bulls doing the Boozer trade is more unrealistic then if they did and trading with the Bucks. I just think DeRozan is a #3 option and the way he's been nurtured by the organization he would not mentally accept that role if we did bring in help. He gets a lot of FT points but the deeper you go in the playoffs the more you need other skills that he doesn't have. Toronto fans just over rate good players now and forever its a disease. I'd rather shoot for the stars and DeRozan is a comet. Miami, SA, Dal, LAC, Por, Okc, GS, Was (Beal will pass him if not already), Chi, Hou, all teams with 2 better options then DeRozan and hes our #1. Ya.. I might be dreaming but whoever thinks I'm im lying must be dreaming with me.Comment
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I don't know. i'd rather sign wiggins after his rookie deal when he is ready and is an established nba player already. Because giving up too much for him is just too much. Plus all pressure is gonna be on him, and if he can't handle it, we fans are gonna run him out of town and he's gonna leave and deja vu all over again.
I do agree with you that Wiggins is much better than his numbers in Kansas. The system they have is not for star players. In that game where they lost, he barely got any touches. If he's a gym rat like demar, he's gonna be great.Comment
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This is just so wild and over the top that it might just work! But only if you can: a) successfully roofie the entire Bulls and Bucks front offices, then b) forge a significant amount of paperwork, and finally c) murder the entire Bulls and Bucks front offices in order to prevent them from drawing further attention to the cluster fuck that is this trade propsalComment
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