Canada Basketball

[golden]

Lol Nurse never got to coach a team as talented as this year's Olympic team. He never got to coach SGA or Murray. I don't think he ever coached Brooks or Nembhard either.

The tournament in Victoria 2-3 years ago that he coached at, the two best players on that team were Wiggins and RJ. Cory Joe was the starting PG, Anthony Bennett I think was one of the players off the bench. Lol.

As for Wemby, he only scored 7 points. If you told me before the game that Gobert wouldn't play and that Wemby would only score 7, I would've said easy win for Canada.

Yesterday was a complete disaster.

Nurse had 6 current NBA players, including your go-to guy... Wiggins. 10 NBA guys total.

The Czech team had 1 replacement level NBA player, Satoransky, who washed out of the league right after that tournament.

Like I keep saying, the main defense of Nurse (NBA or FIBA) always seems to be that he needs a super-stacked team to win. Did Nurse really need SGA to beat a team of literal scrubs? Really?

Check out the rosters for yourself:

https://www.fiba.basketball/oqt/cana...c#tab=boxscore

[Primer]

How many guys would this apply to? Lots of rookies lining up to play on the Ilympic team?

It seems to apply to Canada every single time. Every year there is a new young Canadian player that's good enough for the national team but doesn't play for them.

[Primer]

So getting to play against the top big men in the World in this tournament wouldn't be getting you ready to play in the NBA ? He would
have saw guys like Joker ,Giannis , Wemby , Golbert Davis etc .

He got almost no minutes last summer in the world's, so really hard to say this would be good prep for him when he was unlikely to get more minutes this summer.

[The Great One]

Nurse had 6 current NBA players, including your go-to guy... Wiggins. 10 NBA guys total.

The Czech team had 1 replacement level NBA player, Satoransky, who washed out of the league right after that tournament.

Like I keep saying, the main defense of Nurse (NBA or FIBA) always seems to be that he needs a super-stacked team to win. Did Nurse really need SGA to beat a team of literal scrubs? Really?

Check out the rosters for yourself:

https://www.fiba.basketball/oqt/cana...c#tab=boxscore

Andrew Wiggins, RJ Barrett, Lu Dort and a bunch of scrubs. That's what I see.

As for Satoransky, what I learned from these international competitions is that some of these international players who are borderline rotation players in the NBA are really good FIBA players. Schröder for example. He looks like Iverson in these tournament. I think he was also named the World Cup MVP last year.

Patty Mills who's a 100 hundred years old was still one of the best players in this tournament.

Another thing that I noticed is that Canadian NBA players who are borderline rotation players like Powell, Lyles for example don't do well in these competitions.

[LJ2]

That next team is gonna be way better than this team. This is the prologue.

You think? I don't really keep up with the young Canadian basketball player scene so don't know the next wave of players coming out of college. I don't think Mathurin and Sharpe are better than Shai, Murray and RJ though.

[golden]

Andrew Wiggins, RJ Barrett, Lu Dort and a bunch of scrubs. That's what I see.

As for Satoransky, what I learned from these international competitions is that some of these international players who are borderline rotation players in the NBA are really good FIBA players. Schröder for example. He looks like Iverson in these tournament. I think he was also named the World Cup MVP last year.

Patty Mills who's a 100 hundred years old was still one of the best players in this tournament.

Another thing that I noticed is that Canadian NBA players who are borderline rotation players like Powell, Lyles for example don't do well in these competitions.

NAW, CoJo, Lyles and Powell are still in the NBA. Satoransky isn't. If Team Canada had scrubs, then the Czechs had YMCA players. It's all relative. Anyway to slice it... Nurse had a few orders of magnitude more basketball talent at his disposal than the Czech coach did.

I guess it really impossible to stack a team deep enough for Nurse to get a morsel of blame when his team loses.

[golden]

You think? I don't really keep up with the young Canadian basketball player scene so don't know the next wave of players coming out of college. I don't think Mathurin and Sharpe are better than Shai, Murray and RJ though.

We lacked bench scoring and both those guys would theoretically solve that problem immediately.

[Primer]

You think? I don't really keep up with the young Canadian basketball player scene so don't know the next wave of players coming out of college. I don't think Mathurin and Sharpe are better than Shai, Murray and RJ though.

They wouldn't be replacing Shai, Murray, or RJ. They would be additions and push out the guys who didn't play or sucked in this Olympics. We basically don't play a PF, it's 4 wings and a C, and some of the wings have PG skills.

Leonard Miller and Edey are two guys we need to pan out in the NBA and then we would have some useful young bigs.

[LJ2]

We lacked bench scoring and both those guys would theoretically solve that problem immediately.

Yeah, I guess if you're thinking of adding those two to the current team as opposed to leading the next generation of Canadians. It would be for years from now so I was thinking some of the players from this team won't be coming back.

[LJ2]

They wouldn't be replacing Shai, Murray, or RJ. They would be additions and push out the guys who didn't play or sucked in this Olympics. We basically don't play a PF, it's 4 wings and a C, and some of the wings have PG skills.

Leonard Miller and Edey are two guys we need to pan out in the NBA and then we would have some useful young bigs.

True. I was thinking Murray for example won't be back since he's so injury prone and will have 4 more years of wear and tear on his body. He'll also be 30. SGA is the most important guy to bring back and if gives team Canada that commitment then we could be better.

[The Great One]

I don't like all these "we'll be better in 4 years" talk. There's no guarantee. They need to qualify first which is NEVER easy. Murray already looks broken down, how good is he going to be in 4 years? Wiggins will be 33 in 4 years, so he probably would be half washed up by then. Brooks will be 32, again, how effective would he be in 4 years? SGA will only be 30 so let's hope that he stays healthy.

This was THE year to medal. Everybody's healthy(except Murray) everybody's in the prime of their careers. But the Warriors screwed us, and the other dude chose Summer League over the Olympics.

[Primer]

I don't like all these "we'll be better in 4 years" talk. There's no guarantee. They need to qualify first which is NEVER easy. Murray already looks broken down, how good is he going to be in 4 years? Wiggins will be 33 in 4 years, so he probably would be half washed up by then. Brooks will be 32, again, how effective would he be in 4 years? SGA will only be 30 so let's hope that he stays healthy.

This was THE year to medal. Everybody's healthy(except Murray) everybody's in the prime of their careers. But the Warriors screwed us, and the other dude chose Summer League over the Olympics.

Well if Canada completely stops making talent then this holds up. I think it's the exact opposite and more and more great Canadian players are joining the NBA and we will easily be better next time around. 30 is not old at all, basically the entire USA squad is over 30. Weird thing to harp on. We also didn't need Wiggins at all this cycle, not for qualifying or the Olympics, so losing him means nothing.

[The Great One]

Well if Canada completely stops making talent then this holds up. I think it's the exact opposite and more and more great Canadian players are joining the NBA and we will easily be better next time around. 30 is not old at all, basically the entire USA squad is over 30. Weird thing to harp on. We also didn't need Wiggins at all this cycle, not for qualifying or the Olympics, so losing him means nothing.

It's clear that they need every help they can get lol. Saying they don't need Wiggins who's the second best Canadian player is a weird thing to say.

Anyway, sure Canada continues to produce NBA players. How many of them are stars though? is Danton a star? why is he not on the team anyway? Edey a star? Sharpe? do they have one coming up?

I forgot to mention, France is a future POWERHOUSE. They have Wemby and Coulibaly, they have three guys that got drafted in the lottery this year. They have another guy who's projected to be a lottery pick next year. They're going to be the #2 team behind USA.

It's not going to easy. Canada blew a massive opportunity this year.

[guyroch]

Well if Canada completely stops making talent then this holds up. I think it's the exact opposite and more and more great Canadian players are joining the NBA and we will easily be better next time around. 30 is not old at all, basically the entire USA squad is over 30. Weird thing to harp on. We also didn't need Wiggins at all this cycle, not for qualifying or the Olympics, so losing him means nothing.

It's funny there was a time where Canada only produced big men to play for our national team .. all talent was big ... Jamaal Magloire , Robert Sacre , Bill Wennington , Todd MacCulloch Joel Anthony etc and hoping for some guard play instead of always relying on Alex English but now we are hard pressed to find bigs .. Maybe cause traditional bigs no longer exists .. U.S has that issue also ..

Nothing is guaranteed that we will be in the next Olympics but it's in the U.S and so they already
have a lock and don't have to qualify and so that might help when we are trying to get out
of FIBA Americas ..

[slaw]

Well if Canada completely stops making talent then this holds up. I think it's the exact opposite and more and more great Canadian players are joining the NBA and we will easily be better next time around. 30 is not old at all, basically the entire USA squad is over 30. Weird thing to harp on. We also didn't need Wiggins at all this cycle, not for qualifying or the Olympics, so losing him means nothing.

4 years is a long way away. Seems to me they need a serious post-mortem on what went wrong and how to address it for the next cycle while building off everything that went right. I'm not too worried about 2028.