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  • Zak24gege
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    slaw wrote: View Post

    The Wiggins one might be a situation where a guy needs a change of scenery and a new lease on life. Having said that, it would depend what you have to give up. Even then, you have to find a way to make the contract fit without disrupting your roster.

    I don't think there's a fit in Toronto but I would like to see him get out of Minny and into a really good organization that might be able to maximize his abilities.
    Watching him play he looks disinterested? although he never has come across as an intense, highly competitive guy.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    chris wrote: View Post

    i sat 8 rows behind the bench when i was home over the holidays and i can tell you from that vantage point, this is not correct.

    original gugua is the most physically imposing player on the team.
    I should have rephrase it, IMO OG’s body and BBIQ mind have not fully mature (probably a full season under his belt) to consistently defend the top tier wings of this league. Though stopping Giannis is more of a feat.

    That said, I am with the camp hesitant to trade OG for short term gain.

    But that all depends on what exactly Masai or Webster are up to when they (more Masai) implied that they want to run it back.

    For me, this team is one impactful personnel short, somone who can slow down Giannis in a SEVEN game series
    Last edited by The Claw Reborn; Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:36 PM.

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  • Zak24gege
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

    I could see maybe serge and Marc being in for that. But it would define all logic for FVV to take a 1 year deal.
    FVV will probably get offers of at least 3 years. Being a restricted FA we have the ability to match and should do so as long as it's not anything crazy. Brogan's deal sets a good benchmark IMO.

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  • Zak24gege
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    chris wrote: View Post

    i sat 8 rows behind the bench when i was home over the holidays and i can tell you from that vantage point, this is not correct.

    original gugua is the most physically imposing player on the team.
    OG has defended guys like LeBron so physically I think he can help wall-up Giannis. Unlike Leonard though, he hasn't the defensive credibility with the refs so he would quickly accumulate fouls. He is built like a football player. His older brother Chigbo was in the NFL and was listed at 6-4, 324 lbs.

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  • slaw
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    RaptorsVictim wrote: View Post
    People here, Do not you think that Wiggins will do good here in Toronto ?
    The guy is still only 24 years old.
    The Wiggins one might be a situation where a guy needs a change of scenery and a new lease on life. Having said that, it would depend what you have to give up. Even then, you have to find a way to make the contract fit without disrupting your roster.

    I don't think there's a fit in Toronto but I would like to see him get out of Minny and into a really good organization that might be able to maximize his abilities.

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  • Zak24gege
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    007 wrote: View Post

    This whole situation has really soured my opinion of Iguodala. He's basically turned up his nose on playing for a decent young team, and is getting paid while not fulfilling any part of his contract. He was even on TV recently talking about how happy he's been to take a year off of playing, and how it will extend his career a bit longer
    I would be happy too, relaxing at home while collecting his pre-tax salary of $17M. He is (was) a solid 3 & D wing who could possibly come off the bench, however, we have a younger, more versatile S.F. / S.G. in Norm. He would be a possible RHJ replacement - much better shooter but that's a big $ for a back-up wing.

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  • chris
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    The Claw Reborn wrote: View Post
    . OG’s body... has not fully developed yet.
    i sat 8 rows behind the bench when i was home over the holidays and i can tell you from that vantage point, this is not correct.

    original gugua is the most physically imposing player on the team.

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  • The Claw Reborn
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    If Masai and Webster are both aiming to run it back this season and setting aside for a moment salary flexibility in 2021, I would think that they are pre-planning for the East Finals with the thinking how can they at least limit Giannis free reign without exposing and overtiring Pascal at the defensive end of the court.

    Internally, Ibaka is the most logical one. Therefore to make a run for a championship, Ibaka is not going anywhere as he is the only guy on this team behind Kawhi last season who was able to slow down the freak. OG’s body and BBIQ has not fully developed yet.

    Now focusing outside: Capella, Tucker, Jonathan Isaac (injured), Iggy to me are the most viable pieces that may at least make Gianni’s life in the playoffs somewhat difficult.

    Question: Does Bobby or Masai willing to give up their existing assets for one of these guys?

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  • 007
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post

    The whole Igoudala situation is very peculiar. Why isn't he playing? Is he injured? I know the official reasoning is "he's healing his body for a year" and then will find a place to land. That sounds a little too fluffy to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned but if you're not injured, and yet feel you can't physically take an NBA season after your summer break, you either (a) retire or (b) go to your coach, explain the situation, and ask for a role with reduced minutes you feel you can handle. From Memphis's perspective, they're paying him. So yeah the least they can do is play hardball and get some assets in return if he's not ready to play there.
    This whole situation has really soured my opinion of Iguodala. He's basically turned up his nose on playing for a decent young team, and is getting paid while not fulfilling any part of his contract. He was even on TV recently talking about how happy he's been to take a year off of playing, and how it will extend his career a bit longer

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  • RaptorsVictim
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    People here, Do not you think that Wiggins will do good here in Toronto ?
    The guy is still only 24 years old.

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  • HogieTime
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post

    At first memphis wanted him to report to training camp. He refused. Then Memphis came out and said they made a mutual agreement that he will stay away from the team till they find a trade partner. Iggy seems to think he's above even showing up for a team that isnt a contender. It would be hilarious if they can't find a trade they just held him and said either you play or no one going to know your real value when you hit F.A next summer.
    If he is traded i would like to see him either with us, Mavs or Nugs. Fuck L.A
    What would you give up for Iggy though. Because unless there is a third team involved it would be very hard to make the salaries match. I really don't think he's worth giving up Ibaka or Powell for him. He's making 17mil a season

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  • bertarapsfan
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post

    The whole Igoudala situation is very peculiar. Why isn't he playing? Is he injured? I know the official reasoning is "he's healing his body for a year" and then will find a place to land. That sounds a little too fluffy to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned but if you're not injured, and yet feel you can't physically take an NBA season after your summer break, you either (a) retire or (b) go to your coach, explain the situation, and ask for a role with reduced minutes you feel you can handle. From Memphis's perspective, they're paying him. So yeah the least they can do is play hardball and get some assets in return if he's not ready to play there.
    At first memphis wanted him to report to training camp. He refused. Then Memphis came out and said they made a mutual agreement that he will stay away from the team till they find a trade partner. Iggy seems to think he's above even showing up for a team that isnt a contender. It would be hilarious if they can't find a trade they just held him and said either you play or no one going to know your real value when you hit F.A next summer.
    If he is traded i would like to see him either with us, Mavs or Nugs. Fuck L.A

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  • inthepaint
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    What does everybody think about how Memphis is handling the Iggy situation? It seemed most people in league circles just expected them to buy him out a long time ago so he could join one of the L.A teams. Memphis stands pat and say they will only trade. Now if they don't get a deal by deadline and they buy him out he could go to join a potential 1st round opponent? I like that they haven't bent over to help a big market team so far.
    Do you think it's worth it to just hold onto him if no one comes with an offer? Or will agents/players remember that when the are making F.A pitches?
    The whole Igoudala situation is very peculiar. Why isn't he playing? Is he injured? I know the official reasoning is "he's healing his body for a year" and then will find a place to land. That sounds a little too fluffy to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned but if you're not injured, and yet feel you can't physically take an NBA season after your summer break, you either (a) retire or (b) go to your coach, explain the situation, and ask for a role with reduced minutes you feel you can handle. From Memphis's perspective, they're paying him. So yeah the least they can do is play hardball and get some assets in return if he's not ready to play there.

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  • HogieTime
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    bertarapsfan wrote: View Post
    What does everybody think about how Memphis is handling the Iggy situation? It seemed most people in league circles just expected them to buy him out a long time ago so he could join one of the L.A teams. Memphis stands pat and say they will only trade. Now if they don't get a deal by deadline and they buy him out he could go to join a potential 1st round opponent? I like that they haven't bent over to help a big market team so far.
    Do you think it's worth it to just hold onto him if no one comes with an offer? Or will agents/players remember that when the are making F.A pitches?
    I think all teams should be more like Memphis and make players play out there contract. No bs like when we bought out Alonzo mourning. I'd say if you want out that's fine we'll pay you $1.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    What does everybody think about how Memphis is handling the Iggy situation? It seemed most people in league circles just expected them to buy him out a long time ago so he could join one of the L.A teams. Memphis stands pat and say they will only trade. Now if they don't get a deal by deadline and they buy him out he could go to join a potential 1st round opponent? I like that they haven't bent over to help a big market team so far.
    Do you think it's worth it to just hold onto him if no one comes with an offer? Or will agents/players remember that when the are making F.A pitches?

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