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G__Deane wrote: View Post
I don't really disagree but they could just as easily flame out in the first or second round to any of 5 other teams and I think Masai knows this.I doubt a deal to put them over the top presents itself but believe that Masai does a minor deal for optics if nothing else.
At the end of the day, even though there's no moral victories, to me there's a big difference between going down fighting in a competitive series defending the title despite losing the finals MVP vs. getting swept with blowouts. Worst case scenario this year to me looks to be the former. The kind of exit that would signal to future free agents that the team is just one high-end piece short of getting back to the finals.
So, personally I don't think Masai would tinker just for show. He doesn't strike me as a guy that would feel a need for that. He would value chemistry and continuity more than empty optics. My guess is he either stands pat, or make a relatively minor move to facilitate things in 2021.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vsvfs72
Do u think minny would do this for R. Covington..plus 1st rd pick..or is that 2 much including first..maybe second..this team needs big wing player..defend Giannis or Simmods, boston wing player and so on..."Never apologize for coming to me. Office hours are for patients.
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Dr Hannibal Lecter wrote: View Posthttp://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vsvfs72
Do u think minny would do this for R. Covington..plus 1st rd pick..or is that 2 much including first..maybe second..this team needs big wing player..defend Giannis or Simmods, boston wing player and so on...
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Why is everybody getting such a big boner for Covington? Nice player and always liked him. He's a long-armed defensive wing with a streaky 3-pt point. Sounds a lot like OG, no? Raps are flat-out loaded with defenders up and down the roster. Heck, even RHJ and Brissett bring similar defense of RoCo to the table. And when Covington's 3-pt shot goes cold for an entire playoff series... buyer's remorse will hit us hard. Dude will straight up brick wide open 3's for weeks at a time. And the one time he faced any playoff pressure, he crumbled.
Raptors are #2 in defensive rating.... our problem is offense (17th overall... yikes). If there's anything we need, it's a bench guard that can create his own shot when the offense sputters (which happens a lot). I've never been a huge fan of his, but a better fit would be a guy like Derrick Rose with a contrasting skill set we need, rather than getting into a bidding war for Robert freakin' Covington, who duplicates what we already have.
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golden wrote: View PostWhy is everybody getting such a big boner for Covington? Nice player and always liked him. He's a long-armed defensive wing with a streaky 3-pt point. Sounds a lot like OG, no? Raps are flat-out loaded with defenders up and down the roster. Heck, even RHJ and Brissett bring similar defense of RoCo to the table. And when Covington's 3-pt shot goes cold for an entire playoff series... buyer's remorse will hit us hard. Dude will straight up brick wide open 3's for weeks at a time. And the one time he faced any playoff pressure, he crumbled.
Raptors are #2 in defensive rating.... our problem is offense (17th overall... yikes). If there's anything we need, it's a bench guard that can create his own shot when the offense sputters (which happens a lot). I've never been a huge fan of his, but a better fit would be a guy like Derrick Rose with a contrasting skill set we need, rather than getting into a bidding war for Robert freakin' Covington, who duplicates what we already have.
Obviously no one should be getting into a bidding war for Covington. The Raps should only be talking to the Wolves because the Wolves apparently want ball handlers, and if they strike out on bigger names, the Raps have a couple young pieces that have been rotation pieces in Norm and McCaw who they should be happy to show the door. Any trade suggestion with picks outgoing to the Wolves should be a non-starter.
OMG no thank you to Derrick Rose. Not only is he a scumbag but more importantly he's a truly terrible defender. In the playoffs we'll be running the bench offence through our stars anyway. Hard to be too critical of the offence when we've been down crucial offensive contributors literally all season. With everyone healthy we should be more like a borderline top 10 offensive team, and I wouldn't have any interest in weakening our defensive strength to improve on that.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Impact stats suggest that Covington is a way better defender than anyone on our team outside of Gasol and OG.
Obviously no one should be getting into a bidding war for Covington. The Raps should only be talking to the Wolves because the Wolves apparently want ball handlers, and if they strike out on bigger names, the Raps have a couple young pieces that have been rotation pieces in Norm and McCaw who they should be happy to show the door. Any trade suggestion with picks outgoing to the Wolves should be a non-starter.
OMG no thank you to Derrick Rose. Not only is he a scumbag but more importantly he's a truly terrible defender. In the playoffs we'll be running the bench offence through our stars anyway. Hard to be too critical of the offence when we've been down crucial offensive contributors literally all season. With everyone healthy we should be more like a borderline top 10 offensive team, and I wouldn't have any interest in weakening our defensive strength to improve on that.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
doo you not like Norm?
I LIKE Norm, but in terms of players who help the team win games he's pretty far down the list. Like, in the playoffs, if the guard rotation shrinks to 3 players, who is the third guard behind Lowry and FVV? Right now it's probably Norm, but the team is better if its Davis, and right now he's probably behind both Norm AND McCaw. Norm is fine as a depth option to help you through the regular season but if they can get value for him in a trade that's probably the way to go.
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DanH wrote: View Post
Norm is not very good, and on top of that has a player option for 2021, which means when planning ahead, you either assume that he's really good and you want to keep him, in which case he opts out and has a big cap hold so it kills our FA plans if we keep him (or you let him walk), or you assume that he isn't very good, and he opts in in 2021, and you have a not very good player eating into your FA plans.
I LIKE Norm, but in terms of players who help the team win games he's pretty far down the list. Like, in the playoffs, if the guard rotation shrinks to 3 players, who is the third guard behind Lowry and FVV? Right now it's probably Norm, but the team is better if its Davis, and right now he's probably behind both Norm AND McCaw. Norm is fine as a depth option to help you through the regular season but if they can get value for him in a trade that's probably the way to go.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
i see so you are trying to get him off the books... I mean he has played much better as of late
To clarify, I think most people's perception of him is the same as yours - that he's been playing much better. But that's also why I want to trade him now - not just to get him off the books but because we might be able to do so and also get something of value for him.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Postthe issue is I think if you promote davis you change his development course.. and I think the eventual idea is to turn him into the third guard I agree.. him being gone makes it easier to look for free agents
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