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I love Jrue Holiday, he is a winner. But I do tend to agree that he's not going to lift our offensive ceiling much. And I think that is a more pressing need than the amazing defense he offers.
That said, there may not be any amazing offensive players available. Hell I doubt Holiday is even available.
I do think Zach Lavine is reaching peak frustration and I think we could sneak in under the radar and grab him from that dumbass Bulls front office.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
Second team All-Defense last year. First Team All-Defense in 2018.
even old hubie who is almost completely incapable of criticism called him out a couple of times.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
He gives you that.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostI love Jrue Holiday, he is a winner. But I do tend to agree that he's not going to lift our offensive ceiling much. And I think that is a more pressing need than the amazing defense he offers.
That said, there may not be any amazing offensive players available. Hell I doubt Holiday is even available.
I do think Zach Lavine is reaching peak frustration and I think we could sneak in under the radar and grab him from that dumbass Bulls front office.
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chris wrote: View Postjrue would cost OG and ibaka and i don't think that makes us better.
i like jrue but i'm getting conley vibes from him (who's comparable to him in more ways than one). he's taken a big step back this year. is that step back permanent or just an anomaly?
honestly none of the names out there excite me considering what we'd have to give.
Basically, it would be an all-in move for us in exchange for a young player (OG) that could be breaking through right when Siakam and Fred are peaking in the next couple of years
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chris wrote: View Post
yeah he gets votes based purely on prior reputation. he's been a straight up bad defender this year. i watched the game vs houston yesterday and he had one great block on a danuel house drive and apart from that looked like jose calderon trying to keep his man in front of him.
even old hubie who is almost completely incapable of criticism called him out a couple of times.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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golden wrote: View Post
Only a 106 ORTG, with inconsistent 3-pt shooting. That's not good offense. Also... I saw Jrue brick 2 FTs in clutch time vs. the Rockets yesterday and got Lowry flashbacks, pre-Kawhi. We'd be getting him for the playoffs, so clutch-ness is important.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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Scraptor wrote: View PostI love Jrue Holiday, he is a winner. But I do tend to agree that he's not going to lift our offensive ceiling much. And I think that is a more pressing need than the amazing defense he offers.
That said, there may not be any amazing offensive players available. Hell I doubt Holiday is even available.
I do think Zach Lavine is reaching peak frustration and I think we could sneak in under the radar and grab him from that dumbass Bulls front office.
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Meh, guys like Clint Capela end up overrated and overpaid and are one slip in athleticism away from being mediocre players (who are usually still overpaid) like Kenneth Faried or Deandre Jordan.
I don't think Capela really moves the needle for a team like Boston at all (how much of an improvement is he over the Theis/Kanter duo?)."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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chris wrote: View Post
i hope they trade hayward for capela. gordo is brad stevens' favorite son and ainge coldly trading him after battling back from his gruesome injury has serious potential for internal strife, which would be fun.
make it happen danny.
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slaw wrote: View Post
Been waiting 5 years for Ainge to make the trade that is going to make Boston an unbeatable force in the East. Am still waiting. Won't hold my breath.
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MixxAOR wrote: View Post
There's other ways to look at offense. He would give this team a different dimension. He's big guard who can break down the defense and kick out to shooters but he can actually finish on the inside. No more FVV and Lowry getting blocked at the rim that we all love. Right now we have only two guys who can do that: Pascal and Powell. Plus with Pascal, Gasol. Those shooting percentage will climb and he'll make other guys more efficient as well.
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Jrue sounds like a good fit. I am mostly concerned with 3pt shooting, and jrue is shooting a surprising 35% which isnt bad. OG has come back down to earth a bit at 36.5% while serge is trending up at just shy of 40%. But then you would also have Boucher getting more minutes in place of serge and he shoots a paltry 29%. I'm not sure our defence would suffer at all with this trade. Jrue is an all defensive player, OG is also a damn good defender. Serge has been pretty good defending the paint and boucher brings great energy and is fearless. The defence might be a wash although OG can guard more positions then jrue. I dont know, I still kinda think its too much to give up, but I'm pretty high on OG even though he has kinda disappointed me a little this season. Now if you can get a reddick or favors in that deal it gets more appealing. But I think that throws the money out of whack and becomes too difficult to match.
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