Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Game #21: Houston Rockets 119 - Toronto Raptors 109

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • S.R.
    replied
    MixxAOR wrote: View Post

    yeah scheme is to let other players beat you and they did.
    Well, it is that simple but it isn't. Teams like Toronto have ramped up the execution of that scheme - they're trapping harder, earlier, further away from the basket. And the early returns on being that aggressive with the scheme aren't great. The role player's shooting %'s are all trending up because - surprise surprise - NBA players with wide open shots tend to make more of them.

    I'm not big on doubling hard on a superstar like Harden, not as hard and as often as the Raptors just did. Other teams will beat you (Lebron/Cavs flashbacks). You need a good defender who can guard one-on-one for a lot of the game, then throw different looks e.g. traps, doubles, at unexpected times to keep the star as off balance as possible while also not exposing your own defense too badly.

    And in OG, Norm, and RHJ, the Raptors have several guys who can be aggressive one-on-one on the perimeter. I don't like the overenthusiastic trapping scheme.

    Leave a comment:


  • MixxAOR
    replied
    S.R. wrote: View Post
    We'll see how this shakes out with more data, but Nurse might want to rethink aggressive Harden traps out near halfcourt:

    Going into Monday's game against the Sacramento Kings, other Rockets had hit an astonishing 15 of 21 3s directly off passes Harden tossed out of traps, per ESPN Stats & Info data. (This does not include conventional traps on pick-and-rolls -- just all-out two-against-one traps.) On those shots, the closest defenders were more than seven feet away. Four of Houston's 10 best games in terms of shot quality -- their expected effective field-goal percentage based on the location of each shot, the shooter and the proximity of the nearest defender -- have come since Nov. 20 in Denver, per Second Spectrum.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-teams-winning
    yeah scheme is to let other players beat you and they did.

    Leave a comment:


  • S.R.
    replied
    We'll see how this shakes out with more data, but Nurse might want to rethink aggressive Harden traps out near halfcourt:

    Going into Monday's game against the Sacramento Kings, other Rockets had hit an astonishing 15 of 21 3s directly off passes Harden tossed out of traps, per ESPN Stats & Info data. (This does not include conventional traps on pick-and-rolls -- just all-out two-against-one traps.) On those shots, the closest defenders were more than seven feet away. Four of Houston's 10 best games in terms of shot quality -- their expected effective field-goal percentage based on the location of each shot, the shooter and the proximity of the nearest defender -- have come since Nov. 20 in Denver, per Second Spectrum.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-teams-winning
    Last edited by S.R.; Tue Dec 10, 2019, 11:43 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • G__Deane
    replied
    S.R. wrote: View Post
    Bucks are really good but are also playing role players a lot who got played off the floor in last year's postseason. They have a bunch of guys like Ilyasova and even Lopez who can be gameplanned for, just nobody bothers in the regular season. Middleton is not the greatest second banana. So I expect a certain amount of skepticism will persist until they prove otherwise.

    But Giannis is definitely better again this year, and that will be the make or break for them. Does he finally become a guy who can't be stopped in a 7 game series? He's pretty damn amazing.

    ​​​​
    I think he's the best player in the league now depending on what you value. Anthony Davis right there. Kawhi better all round player.
    But the torch has definitely been passed

    Leave a comment:


  • S.R.
    replied
    Bucks are really good but are also playing role players a lot who got played off the floor in last year's postseason. They have a bunch of guys like Ilyasova and even Lopez who can be gameplanned for, just nobody bothers in the regular season. Middleton is not the greatest second banana. So I expect a certain amount of skepticism will persist until they prove otherwise.

    But Giannis is definitely better again this year, and that will be the make or break for them. Does he finally become a guy who can't be stopped in a 7 game series? He's pretty damn amazing.

    ​​​​

    Leave a comment:


  • G__Deane
    replied
    planetmars wrote: View Post

    Giannis is averaging less than 32mpg. Bucks are really really good.
    And he's been able to sit out half and full 4th quarters when they are blowing out teams. And he just turned 25, ride that horse lol

    Leave a comment:


  • MixxAOR
    replied
    don't let Mike Scott get going. please for the love of god

    Leave a comment:


  • Zak24gege
    replied
    76'ers crushed CAVs - no Embiid, Simmons hits a 3, and they are now 11-0 at home. Time for Raptors to end that streak. Realistically we have to keep them off the offensive glass or it will be a tough one to win.

    Leave a comment:


  • golden
    replied
    planetmars wrote: View Post

    Giannis is averaging less than 32mpg. Bucks are really really good.
    Bucks are peaking too early.

    Leave a comment:


  • planetmars
    replied
    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    Lots of teams playing well at the quarter point of the season. Houston and Milwaukee in particular are really pushing their stars. It will be interesting to see how this pace affects them by playoff time.
    Giannis is averaging less than 32mpg. Bucks are really really good.

    Leave a comment:


  • LJ2
    replied
    Lots of teams playing well at the quarter point of the season. Houston and Milwaukee in particular are really pushing their stars. It will be interesting to see how this pace affects them by playoff time.

    Leave a comment:


  • inthepaint
    replied
    G__Deane wrote: View Post

    Clips are playing .700 ball and 13-1 at home, I think they're going to be OK , no shame in losing to one of the best players in the game on another very good team....
    No shame, but they're not looking unstoppable either. .700 ball is good, we're playing .700 ball too but there ain't nobody drooling over us. Clips 13-1 home record looks good but it also tells us they have a losing record on the road (3-6), which is where you have to win too in order to go far. I think they'll be fine too, it's early in the season, it's just that the hype anointing them before the games were even played was so big, they haven't lived up to it just yet.

    Leave a comment:


  • chris
    replied
    i don't get the sense the clippers are taking the regular season particularly seriously, they didn't appear too interested in that bucks game. i still think they'll be there at the end and would pick them over the bucks in that matchup.

    Leave a comment:


  • G__Deane
    replied
    inthepaint wrote: View Post

    Weren't you saying just about a week ago that the Cippers would be unstoppable when Kawhi & George played together though? I for one think the season is long, full of ups and downs and a lot can happen between now and June
    Clips are playing .700 ball and 13-1 at home, I think they're going to be OK , no shame in losing to one of the best players in the game on another very good team....

    Leave a comment:


  • golden
    replied
    Zak24gege wrote: View Post

    I've seen Harden play tough on the block before. He is a big, strong guard so not a surprise Siakam had difficulties. Also by the 4th quarter, I think Pascal was gassed from running around on D trying to get to shooters.
    Harden stopped Kawhi's attempt at a buzzer beater last year in Houston. He can guard when he wants to.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X