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  • inthepaint
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    Puffer wrote: View Post

    Rico Hines on Paul Watson, who has been attending Hines' summer workouts for the last couple of years after Watson signed a two-year, two-way contract with the Raptors:

    "Oh, man, how dope is that, right? I mean, come on, man. Like, I just got chills thinking about that kid just now,” Hines said. “First of all, I love every kid that I work with. I truly do, man. And I love to see them finally start to get it. It’s such a dope thing to watch, man. It’s just like the best thing in the world because, you know, him not getting drafted, him having a good college career, being a rookie of the year in his conference, you know, he had big-time talent. He has big-time talent, man. He has worked with me the past summers. And the kid, he devoted himself this summer, guys. I mean, he really did....We worked on all the things that he needed to do, and he became more aggressive,” Hines said. “Because by nature, he can really hoop, he can do a lot of things, he can play-make, he’s extremely athletic, he can defend, he can make shots, but he’s just kind of laid-back, he lets the games come to him. But when he turns it on like he did right now … now you can kind of get a chance to see the certain things. And a lot of that is just his development.”

    We can only hope.

    https://theathletic.com/1824394/2020...aul-watson-jr/
    Watson have just finished 2nd in G-league MIP voting for the 2019-2020 season per Blake Murphy. Our team is stacked, so he won't crack the rotation but the kid can hoop...

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  • G__Deane
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    The Great One wrote: View Post
    Is LeBron's kid any good? should the Raps tank in his draft year?

    Looks like he's not on Dad's special vitamins yet

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  • KeonClark
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    007 wrote: View Post
    He’s 15 lol. Who the hell knows what he’ll end up becoming
    He'll get drafted high just on name alone

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  • 007
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    He’s 15 lol. Who the hell knows what he’ll end up becoming

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  • The Great One
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    Is LeBron's kid any good? should the Raps tank in his draft year?

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  • DogeLover1234
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    G__Deane wrote: View Post

    Agreed but they would have to make the decision for a step back to trade Norm for high potential. Personally, I think they have to do a fairly extensive rebuild one way or the other:
    -if Giannis would come here, you need another star to add to Pascal.
    -if Giannis or other elite won't come here, time to tear this down unfortunately.

    I don't see any scenario where there aren't major changes coming as Marc, Serge and Kyle all cycle out over the next 2 years. Think about the additions it would take to keep up with the Clippers, Lakers and Bucks if they are able to stand pat or improve. We're gonna see if Masai really is a magician.
    Yeah thats totally reasonable, at the same time I dont thinkcompeting for a couple years with Lowry, Serge, Gasol (though he moves reeeal slow now) and building with a lotto pick are mutually exclusive. You need relatively cheap talent somewhere and Id rather any young guy earn minutes on a good team with mentors than thrown to the wolves on a bad team. I guess maybe I don’t think we’re worlds away from the teams you mentioned. Not that talent wise wed be close, but teams have retooled really quick with just good decision making, a solid core and luck. You definitely won’t get the next Luka or Zion, but you can be damn good and wait for the next big trade, diamond in the rough etc. (maybe i just dont want bad basketball though, idk)

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  • G__Deane
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    DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post

    Not at all opposed to keeping Norm, hes great and honestly on a bargin deal this year. That being said, I imagine he tests his luck in free agency in a year and i doubt it makes sense to keep him. A lot of good guys are coming off their rookie deals in the next couple years, and its a good chance to get a value deal tbh. Unless you get lucky with a signing or impressive player development Raps are a piece or two away from contending as is, especially with a couple key aging guys. To me with how the team is built getting younger and losing some depth short-term isnt tragic - especially for a high potential addition.
    Agreed but they would have to make the decision for a step back to trade Norm for high potential. Personally, I think they have to do a fairly extensive rebuild one way or the other:
    -if Giannis would come here, you need another star to add to Pascal.
    -if Giannis or other elite won't come here, time to tear this down unfortunately.

    I don't see any scenario where there aren't major changes coming as Marc, Serge and Kyle all cycle out over the next 2 years. Think about the additions it would take to keep up with the Clippers, Lakers and Bucks if they are able to stand pat or improve. We're gonna see if Masai really is a magician.

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  • DogeLover1234
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    G__Deane wrote: View Post

    Trading an improved Norm for a draft pick seems like a step back right now. If Serge and Gasol aren't back and they plan on letting Kyle go the year after, sure.
    Not at all opposed to keeping Norm, hes great and honestly on a bargin deal this year. That being said, I imagine he tests his luck in free agency in a year and i doubt it makes sense to keep him. A lot of good guys are coming off their rookie deals in the next couple years, and its a good chance to get a value deal tbh. Unless you get lucky with a signing or impressive player development Raps are a piece or two away from contending as is, especially with a couple key aging guys. To me with how the team is built getting younger and losing some depth short-term isnt tragic - especially for a high potential addition.

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  • G__Deane
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    DogeLover1234 wrote: View Post
    Worth noting is there are a ton of teams in that mid first round range with a lot of young talent on the roster already, and probably eager to take a step forward with an established talent. Norm is on a very reasonable contract next year which could easily be used to move up if the guy you like is sitting there in that late lotto range. I wouldn’t go out of my way, but as others have speculated, team draft boards could be shaken up meaning a top 5 guy slides to 14 or a GM might like to mitigate risk and cash in on an imediate starter plus a late first.
    Trading an improved Norm for a draft pick seems like a step back right now. If Serge and Gasol aren't back and they plan on letting Kyle go the year after, sure.

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  • DogeLover1234
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    Worth noting is there are a ton of teams in that mid first round range with a lot of young talent on the roster already, and probably eager to take a step forward with an established talent. Norm is on a very reasonable contract next year which could easily be used to move up if the guy you like is sitting there in that late lotto range. I wouldn’t go out of my way, but as others have speculated, team draft boards could be shaken up meaning a top 5 guy slides to 14 or a GM might like to mitigate risk and cash in on an imediate starter plus a late first.

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  • G__Deane
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    If we draft length again, can we not get a bean pole that were constantly saying has to put on 20 pounds though?
    The Raps do lack a certain ..... edge and attitude, after maybe Serge and Kyle

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  • Apollo
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    Whoever it is we know that person is gonna be a keeper. The Raptors are hitting Spurs level of reputation for hitting on diamonds in the rough.

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  • bertarapsfan
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    I think the big winner of the draft is going to be someone in the 7-14 range. Usually with the tournament and workouts the top 5 prospect usually solidify themselves. There going to be a top 5 talent that slips to the late lottery and the team that is able to find that guy is going to grab him and run like bandits.
    But for the raps i agree a good young center who can shoot the 3 would be next step in retooling our future.
    We have FVV,Norm/TD,Og,Pascal as the potential future at the other 4 spots. Grab us a C and we could have a core of late 1st rounders, 2nd rounders and undrafted thats better then perennial lottery teams
    Last edited by bertarapsfan; Mon May 25th, 2020, 04:22 PM.

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  • DogeLover1234
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    If Masai keeps the pick.. look for older guys that have length and have some kind of chip that gives them drive. Masai has a formula and it's pretty bullet proof. Ideally I'd like to see a PF/C hybrid. Not really sold on Dewan but he had limited time on the roster last year, and was a second rounder.

    Serge/Marc are aging and might not be around anymore after this year. Can always look to fill that position in a trade or free agency, but it's more fun usually to see a guy that we bring in and develop like we did with Pascal, Fred and Norm.
    I think part of the reason Masai and co like the older guys is they typically end up a bit smarter coming into the league. Too many young guys come into the league with a shaky feel for the game and are lost defensively. The high draft picks see the floor and rely on superior physical traits to make up for lack of fundementals and knowledge, while the guys going to good teams seem to get wedged into strict roles and never reach their potential. In todays NBA you have to be able to process info real quick especially defensively, and I think the older guys have some advantages there - though it doesnt hurt to be around Lowry, Gasol, Nurse, etc all day.

    Watched a couple GLeague games to get a sense of Dewan, im kinda torn. Think hes got potential as a F/C, but hes gotta get stronger and some more experience. Think he really suffered missing his last year in college due to suspension - just looks awkward at times. That being said, hes got some skills, is long, pretty explosive and a fluid athlete with a good frame and solid instincts - just needs more time and an offseason to tighten everything up. Think he could compete for a backup role by next season.

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  • planetmars
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    If Masai keeps the pick.. look for older guys that have length and have some kind of chip that gives them drive. Masai has a formula and it's pretty bullet proof. Ideally I'd like to see a PF/C hybrid. Not really sold on Dewan but he had limited time on the roster last year, and was a second rounder.

    Serge/Marc are aging and might not be around anymore after this year. Can always look to fill that position in a trade or free agency, but it's more fun usually to see a guy that we bring in and develop like we did with Pascal, Fred and Norm.

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