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  • golden
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post

    Every draft profile of a projected late first round picks have a bunch of negative stuff. It's like Siakam's draft profile, it turned out to be way off.

    This is one of my favourite profiles:

    Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

    That's Kawhi Leonard's draft "profile".

    Truth is, with these mid to late picks, people don't really have a clue until the player's been in the league for a bit
    Yeah, but Kawhi's weaknesses are things that can be worked on and developed with training and coaching. Winston isn't going to get taller or more athletic at the NBA level. You can't teach wingspan, or something like that.

    But I hear ya. NBADraft.net is especially famous for hilariously bad draft analysis. My favorite is Henry Ellenson. lol. They basically just looked at his head-shot and compared him to Brian Scalabrine & Brian Cardinal..... 2 un-athletic, white, red-headed dudes.

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  • MixxAOR
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    I don't know about drafting a kid who in 2-3 years MIGHT become FVV. Might as well shoot for the stars and not draft undersized point guard

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  • inthepaint
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    golden wrote: View Post



    5 - Cassius Winston
    6-1, 185 Point Guard



    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/cassius-winston/
    Every draft profile of a projected late first round picks have a bunch of negative stuff. It's like Siakam's draft profile, it turned out to be way off.

    This is one of my favourite profiles:

    Weaknesses: Does not have one aspect offensively that stands out or which allows him to consistently score the ball … With his size and frame, will almost certainly be a perimeter player at the next level, but he lacks the polish and skill necessary to consistently operate on the wing … He does not have break down ability off the dribble and he is especially shaky handling the ball with his left hand … His jumpshot (while definitely improved) is still very inconsistent … The release comes high off his head and it is somewhat of a sling motion, which results in a fairly flat shot that goes all over the place … At this level, he has a size advantage on almost a nightly basis, but he still chooses to take the majority of his shots from the outside … Takes a high number of off balance shots, but does not show the ability to convert them at a good percentage … He does not have a great touch around the basket, and unless he can get inside position on the defense, he struggles finishing when contested … Not very disciplined defensively, he gambles far too often and leaves his team susceptible to giving up easy baskets …

    That's Kawhi Leonard's draft "profile".

    Truth is, with these mid to late picks, people don't really have a clue until the player's been in the league for a bit

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  • The Great One
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    planetmars wrote: View Post

    You're right, I have no idea what Stanley's background is. He could have a story that Masai loves.

    Poeltl was a lottery pick and was selected by an algorithm. Daniels got hurt and we had too much depth for him to get a chance. Not sure about Wright but he looked good as a Raptor.. not a star or anything but carried himself well. Definitely a safe pick. Other than Harrell and maybe Josh Richardson, who were both selected in the 2nd round.. not sure who else he should have drafted. Bruno was a bad pick and a reach. He was selected for his physical attributes. Masai won't make that mistake again. But on the other hand maybe we don't get a G-League team without Bruno. Masai had to convince MLSE that getting a G-League team was worthwhile. Hernandez has a pretty unique story. Was also the 59th pick so basically came in undrafted. He's still a giant question mark though. So far I've been unimpressed but he got hurt and he still looks like he's hobbling when he runs.

    I don't know anything about Stanley. But Masai and Tolzman have types. Maybe they go a different way this year. Anything is possible. But they usually don't go after 1 and done's or anyone that went to a top tier program. But nobody in a top tier program ever slips that far either.

    Is the reason why Stanley is expected to go slow low because of his injury? Why is he so under the radar?
    Not having an NCAA Tournament to showcase his skill didn't help him.

    Lots of times how players do in the tourney is a good scouting tool. I think a lot of solid players will still be available late in the draft. If there is a year to steal a star player late in the 1st round or the 2nd round, this is the year.

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  • DanH
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    Sonny wrote: View Post
    Any chance we move up in the draft?
    Always a chance, Powell would be the obvious piece to move in that case, but I would be surprised. This isn’t the draft to move up in.

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  • Sonny
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    Any chance we move up in the draft?

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  • planetmars
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    The Great One wrote: View Post

    How do you know Stanley doesn't believe in himself? because he went to Duke University?

    Norm, Pascal, TD, Fred....it's easy to talk about these guys now right? so what about Bruno? he's the complete opposite of these guys. What about DeAndre Daniels? I don't think he ever made it to the NBA. Delon Wright? Poeltl? I don't think they have the same mindset as FVV or Norm. Both guys are pretty soft. What about their most recent draft pick Hernandez?
    You're right, I have no idea what Stanley's background is. He could have a story that Masai loves.

    Poeltl was a lottery pick and was selected by an algorithm. Daniels got hurt and we had too much depth for him to get a chance. Not sure about Wright but he looked good as a Raptor.. not a star or anything but carried himself well. Definitely a safe pick. Other than Harrell and maybe Josh Richardson, who were both selected in the 2nd round.. not sure who else he should have drafted. Bruno was a bad pick and a reach. He was selected for his physical attributes. Masai won't make that mistake again. But on the other hand maybe we don't get a G-League team without Bruno. Masai had to convince MLSE that getting a G-League team was worthwhile. Hernandez has a pretty unique story. Was also the 59th pick so basically came in undrafted. He's still a giant question mark though. So far I've been unimpressed but he got hurt and he still looks like he's hobbling when he runs.

    I don't know anything about Stanley. But Masai and Tolzman have types. Maybe they go a different way this year. Anything is possible. But they usually don't go after 1 and done's or anyone that went to a top tier program. But nobody in a top tier program ever slips that far either.

    Is the reason why Stanley is expected to go slow low because of his injury? Why is he so under the radar?

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  • S.R.
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    I'm so bored of drafts lol.
    I've never been into them, other than the top couple lottery picks. Congrats to people actually following prospects closely enough to have something to say, but after the top 1-5 it's such a crapshoot for everyone. A few Draftexpress articles and YT videos don't tell me anything. Per YouTube, I'm ready for the Raptors to sign The Professor, let Fred walk, and win a championship with the best backcourt in the NBA next year. PRO BALLER GETS SERVED WATCH THESE HIGHLIGHTS

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  • golden
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    KeonClark wrote: View Post

    Why? we get treated to 6 weeks of members becoming youtube scouts over here at RR! And then on draft day, we all get to lambast Masai for not taking OUR guy!

    Remember when that moron drafted some unknown named Pascal Siakam instead of lengthy big man Skal Labissiere? Or when he didn't take Canadian superstar Tyler Ennis, instead he took that meme Bruno!

    Fun fact: Bruno Caboclo plays in the NBA, Tyler Ennis plays in Turkey
    To be fair, Tyler Ennis plays in Turkey and Bruno sits on the bench in the NBA. But point made. Long arms will get you places.

    Speaking of Skal. What's up with him? He'd be a good pickup for a value contract backup PF/C, if he's available.

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  • The Great One
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    planetmars wrote: View Post
    I have not been following this draft at all.

    Have total faith in Masai and Tolzman. I wouldn't be shocked if the Raptors bought a pick. Or traded their own. It's going to be a wild draft since scouting was so rare (ie, no march madness). The draft is expected to be weak as well, but they always say that, and elite talent always finds a way to come out of nowhere.

    Key is to find those guys that believe in themselves. That's the Raptor culture now. Kyle, Pascal, Fred, Norm, Terrence, Matt.. all struggled to get to this league. That's the kind of guy Masai will aim for.

    This Cassius Stanley guy doesn't seem to fit the Masai profile. 4-star prospect from high school that went to bloody Duke University. And he's a 1 and done.

    He looks good in that highlight reel though.
    How do you know Stanley doesn't believe in himself? because he went to Duke University?

    Norm, Pascal, TD, Fred....it's easy to talk about these guys now right? so what about Bruno? he's the complete opposite of these guys. What about DeAndre Daniels? I don't think he ever made it to the NBA. Delon Wright? Poeltl? I don't think they have the same mindset as FVV or Norm. Both guys are pretty soft. What about their most recent draft pick Hernandez?

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  • KeonClark
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    MixxAOR wrote: View Post
    I'm so bored of drafts lol.
    Why? we get treated to 6 weeks of members becoming youtube scouts over here at RR! And then on draft day, we all get to lambast Masai for not taking OUR guy!

    Remember when that moron drafted some unknown named Pascal Siakam instead of lengthy big man Skal Labissiere? Or when he didn't take Canadian superstar Tyler Ennis, instead he took that meme Bruno!

    Fun fact: Bruno Caboclo plays in the NBA, Tyler Ennis plays in Turkey

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  • golden
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    inthepaint wrote: View Post

    That's the ticket. Let FVV get his bag and a starting PG role in a good suiting team somewhere . Draft this kid and save a bunch of $ for Lowry and the new FA in the future.


    5 - Cassius Winston
    6-1, 185 Point Guard

    Weaknesses: Winston is not physically gifted, standing at an ordinary 6’1 190 lbs without any true NBA-level athleticism to speak of … Not particularly quick or explosive, will have trouble finishing at the rim and playing defense against other PGs in the NBA … Also has a very unathletic looking body type … For as cerebral as he is, he can be turnover prone and did at times cost his team games by coughing up the ball too much … Has put up pretty good shooting numbers in his college career, but his release is a bit on the slow side and it figures to be easier to defend at the next level … Doesn’t look great in the open court … Wasn’t anything special as an on-ball defender in college, doesn’t really create turnovers or get under the skin of opposing guards the way most undersized guards do … Has to rely on smarts and skill solely to win matchups due to limited physical profile …
    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/cassius-winston/

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  • MixxAOR
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    I'm so bored of drafts lol.

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  • inthepaint
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    golden wrote: View Post

    Different Cassius, but...

    That's the ticket. Let FVV get his bag and a starting PG role in a good suiting team somewhere . Draft this kid and save a bunch of $ for Lowry and the new FA in the future.

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  • planetmars
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    I have not been following this draft at all.

    Have total faith in Masai and Tolzman. I wouldn't be shocked if the Raptors bought a pick. Or traded their own. It's going to be a wild draft since scouting was so rare (ie, no march madness). The draft is expected to be weak as well, but they always say that, and elite talent always finds a way to come out of nowhere.

    Key is to find those guys that believe in themselves. That's the Raptor culture now. Kyle, Pascal, Fred, Norm, Terrence, Matt.. all struggled to get to this league. That's the kind of guy Masai will aim for.

    This Cassius Stanley guy doesn't seem to fit the Masai profile. 4-star prospect from high school that went to bloody Duke University. And he's a 1 and done.

    He looks good in that highlight reel though.

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