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  • KHD
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    We are receiving Miles in a sign and trade. Teams that a) receive a player in a sign and trade or b) use the full MLE or BAE, are hard capped for the year.
    oh.

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  • DanH
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    KHD wrote: View Post
    ok i missed something... why are we hard-capped?
    We are receiving Miles in a sign and trade. Teams that a) receive a player in a sign and trade or b) use the full MLE or BAE, are hard capped for the year.

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  • Ebonhawke
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    KHD wrote: View Post
    ok i missed something... why are we hard-capped?
    Because of the sign and trade with Indiana

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  • KHD
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    ok i missed something... why are we hard-capped?

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  • DanH
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    Hard cap prevents everything. It's a hard cap. Impossible to spend past it.

    With Hamilton stretched, Raps now about 4.9M clear of hard cap. And have to sign someone.

    Keep in mind though, all of this is working off of non-confirmed salary numbers. Could change.

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    I posted in the off season thread.

    We are hard capped at 125.3M.

    We have full MLE available, but need to stay under hard cap anyway. Still have TPE from Carroll deal, but again, have to stay under hard cap. Currently ~3M under the hard cap.
    Nice, thanks. So we could just sign someone for 3 mill. Or we could ditch Bebe and Hamilton like you suggested and use the full MLE (did I read somewhere that it's up around 8 mill now?), but wouldn't that leave us with two open roster spots? Does the hard cap prevent veteran minimum salaries as well?

    Trading JV into space might give us a bit more flexibility in adding another wing. But it's hard to imagine that tradeoff (JV for MLE) working out in our favour.

    Maybe we just stand pat now, with the roster at 14 (plus the 2 2-ways is 16). And save the 6 million bucks.

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  • DanH
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    SkywalkerAC wrote: View Post
    Anyone know where this leaves us in terms of committed salary?

    Can Masai go ahead and use the full MLE and sort it out after the fact?

    Are we hard-capped at 125 mill for the entire season, or just the offseason?
    I posted in the off season thread.

    We are hard capped at 125.3M.

    We have full MLE available, but need to stay under hard cap anyway. Still have TPE from Carroll deal, but again, have to stay under hard cap. Currently ~3M under the hard cap.

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  • SkywalkerAC
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    Anyone know where this leaves us in terms of committed salary?

    Can Masai go ahead and use the full MLE and sort it out after the fact?

    Are we hard-capped at 125 mill for the entire season, or just the offseason?

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  • psrs1
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    3inthekeon wrote: View Post
    Terrence Jones may be available for the minimum. Guessing there's still a couple members of his fan club here.
    If available for minimum there is really nothing to lose.

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  • 3inthekeon
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    Terrence Jones may be available for the minimum. Guessing there's still a couple members of his fan club here.

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  • slaw
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Either way they have to go hunting. Dump Carroll and you need a SF. Dump JV and you need a PF.

    Ultimately you are right, it will come down to interest and asset cost. Could go either way.
    If it's one or the other I'm all for keeping JV. Raps still need shooting from somewhere and signing another perimeter player makes sense. Either way, a couple of guys like Wright, Powell, Poeltl, Siakam are going to have to step up into a much bigger roles.

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  • Demographic Shift
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Either way they have to go hunting. Dump Carroll and you need a SF. Dump JV and you need a PF.

    Ultimately you are right, it will come down to interest and asset cost. Could go either way.
    lewro wrote: View Post
    They need a PF anyway bc Ibaka and the team seem to favour him at the 5 but he can get some spot mins at 4. They have siakam, Bruno and maybe Pat. OG may end up being more of 4 too. Demarre is the only true 3. Although he's so broken, he's almost "better" at the 4.
    They are give or take @132m$ ... that's with dumping the cap holds on decolo, thompson and Paterson.
    If the goal is to limbo under the tax then one of Carroll or JV has to go with an asset or two tied to their kiesters

    So who goes if the aim is to get under the cap?

    It might be more cost effective to move JV to a cap space team. Atlanta or Brooklyn are possibilities as both teams have a need at C and the desire to stockpile additional assets to some pretty barren cupboards. Carroll, as down as folks get on him, still carries the possibility to provide some 3 pt. shooting. This is still an area of need that hasn't been addressed. We are also arguably thinner at SF than we are at C.

    If it's to get under the apron then moving Joseph and having Webster kick the cap barrel rules a bit gets them there. PG is another area the Raps at least right now are set up well with. Over the tax but under the apron brings some restrictions for the year but it also lets you bring back pretty much the whole band save for Joseph and Paterson.

    Is the team better or worse with the apron as the goal line. Guess we will know when we see what Powell can do with legit minutes, if Carroll comes back from Lourdes with a healed up body and a three point shot and if Ibalka gets back to his form at OKC.

    None of Cleveland, Washington, Boston didn't get right now better. The Bucks are still a work in progress. Philly will be like Minny last year. Lots of young talent that doesn't know how to win yet. Atlanta and the Bulls hit the lottery. Miami if they get Hayward is good but last years miracle will be tough to replicate.

    I bet we go for the tax apron. Sad to see him go but thanks for a couple of real big buzzer beater shots to win games mr. Joseph and good luck with your new team.
    Last edited by Demographic Shift; Mon Jul 3, 2017, 04:16 PM.

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  • lewro
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    DanH wrote: View Post
    Either way they have to go hunting. Dump Carroll and you need a SF. Dump JV and you need a PF.

    Ultimately you are right, it will come down to interest and asset cost. Could go either way.
    They need a PF anyway bc Ibaka and the team seem to favour him at the 5 but he can get some spot mins at 4. They have siakam, Bruno and maybe Pat. OG may end up being more of 4 too. Demarre is the only true 3. Although he's so broken, he's almost "better" at the 4.

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  • DanH
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    Looking back at those expectations, besides losing Tucker, this off season has been very successful for the Raps so far.

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  • DanH
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    Either way they have to go hunting. Dump Carroll and you need a SF. Dump JV and you need a PF.

    Ultimately you are right, it will come down to interest and asset cost. Could go either way.

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