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Building on what DanH, Planetmars and others have written, is there a possibility the following could work:
How to Resign Bismack Byombo and give him his money without rescinding free agent salary cap holds or trading players
Raptors match or negotiate a prospective new team's offer over the length of the offer [likely 4 years from 2016 to 2020] rather than over 1 year [2016-2017].
Raptors present an offer to pay Bismack less money in years 1 and 2 on a 2 year Non-Tax Mid Level Exception contract
Raptors pay Bismack more money in years 3 and 4 [2018-2019 and 2019-2020] on a second 2 year contract when Raptors have full Bird rights.
New Team Contract Offer
Year Period Payments Length Contract Type
1st 2016-17 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
2nd2017-18 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
3rd 2018-19 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
4th 2019-20 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
4yr Total $60,000,000
4yr Average $15,000,000
Raptors Contract Offers
Year Period Payments Length Contract Type
1st 2016-17 $5,628,000 2 Years Non-Tax Mid Level Exception
2nd2017-18 $5,881,000 2 Years Non-Tax Mid Level Exception [4.5% Increase]
3rd2018-19 $24,245,500 2 Years Full Bird
4th2019-20 $24,245,500 2 Years Full Bird
4yr Total $60,000,000
4yr Average $15,000,000
Notes:
1] Over 4 years, Byombo gets $60,000,000 from Raptors versus $60,000,000 from a new team
2] The formula is: $60,000,000 [New Team 4 Years] - $5,628,000 - $5,881,000 = $48,491,000 / 2 years = $24,245,500
2] If necessary, Bismack could consider exercising his 2016-2017 Player Option [before June 3, 2016]. Year 1 and year 2 contracts would be for a lot less money but years 3 and 4 would make it up although at much higher amounts.
3] The numbers would be different depending on how much other teams actually offer Bismack and for how much the Raptors and Byombo negotiate what is paid. But the concept, method and calculations used to resign him would be the same.
4] According to Larry Coon: Early Bird contracts must be at least two seasons in length, which prevents teams from using the Early Bird to sign a one-year contract, then signing the same player with the full Larry Bird exception the following season.
Effectively, this would eliminate the use of Early Bird rights for Bismack because his Full Bird Rights wouldn't be available until his fourth year in 2019-2020.
Why Bismack Byombo Might Accept This Arrangement
1] Although he would have to wait 2 years, Bismack would get paid his full amount of money [$60,000,000].
2] Bismack would get to stay in Toronto with a city that appreciates and respects what he has to offer [President, Head Coach, Players, Fans, Others]
3] Bismack would stay with an organization which emphasizes and prioritizes his basketball strengths [defence]
4] Bismack would not have to take the risk of going to a new organization which may place a different emphasis on how they play basketball [such as emphasizing and prioritizing offense over defence]
Why Bismack Byombo Might Not Accept This Arrangement
1] Bismack would have to wait 2 years before he starts to get paid the major part of his money.
2] He could have a career ending injury within the next 2 years before he signs a full bird contract in his 3rd year [2018-2019].
Why The Raptors Might Accept This Arrangement
1] The Raptors would keep Bismack for 2 years at an extremely low price.
2] The Raptors would not have to rescind any free agent salary cap holds in order to sign Bismack.
3] The Raptors would not have to trade anyone in order to sign Bismack. If the Raptors want to make a trade, then they would do so for other reasons but not to sign Bismack.
4] Because Bismack would sign a 2 year Non-Tax Mid Level Exception contract, the Raptors could use the Non-Tax Mid Level Exception again the next year [2017-2018] to sign another free agent.
Why The Raptors Might Not Accept This Arrangement
1] Paying Bismack $24,245,500 both in 2018-2019 and 2019-2020 might appear to be too much money but:
a] This would be make up pay for the extremely low amounts paid in the first 2 years [2016-2017 and 2017-2018] and
b] With the increases in salaries over the next 2 years he would probably be offered that much money by another team when he becomes a free agent again [2018-2019].
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DonM wrote: View PostBuilding on what DanH, Planetmars and others have written, is there a possibility the following could work:
How to Resign Bismack Byombo and give him his money without rescinding free agent salary cap holds or trading players
Raptors match or negotiate a prospective new team's offer over the length of the offer [likely 4 years from 2016 to 2020] rather than over 1 year [2016-2017].
Raptors present an offer to pay Bismack less money in years 1 and 2 on a 2 year Non-Tax Mid Level Exception contract
Raptors pay Bismack more money in years 3 and 4 [2018-2019 and 2019-2020] on a second 2 year contract when Raptors have full Bird rights.
New Team Contract Offer
Year Period Payments Length Contract Type
1st 2016-17 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
2nd2017-18 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
3rd 2018-19 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
4th 2019-20 $15,000,000 4 Years Cap Space
4yr Total $60,000,000
4yr Average $15,000,000
Raptors Contract Offers
Year Period Payments Length Contract Type
1st 2016-17 $5,628,000 2 Years Non-Tax Mid Level Exception
2nd2017-18 $5,881,000 2 Years Non-Tax Mid Level Exception [4.5% Increase]
3rd2018-19 $24,245,500 2 Years Full Bird
4th2019-20 $24,245,500 2 Years Full Bird
4yr Total $60,000,000
4yr Average $15,000,000
Notes:
1] Over 4 years, Byombo gets $60,000,000 from Raptors versus $60,000,000 from a new team
2] The formula is: $60,000,000 [New Team 4 Years] - $5,628,000 - $5,881,000 = $48,491,000 / 2 years = $24,245,500
2] If necessary, Bismack could consider exercising his 2016-2017 Player Option [before June 3, 2016]. Year 1 and year 2 contracts would be for a lot less money but years 3 and 4 would make it up although at much higher amounts.
3] The numbers would be different depending on how much other teams actually offer Bismack and for how much the Raptors and Byombo negotiate what is paid. But the concept, method and calculations used to resign him would be the same.
4] According to Larry Coon: Early Bird contracts must be at least two seasons in length, which prevents teams from using the Early Bird to sign a one-year contract, then signing the same player with the full Larry Bird exception the following season.
Effectively, this would eliminate the use of Early Bird rights for Bismack because his Full Bird Rights wouldn't be available until his fourth year in 2019-2020.
Why Bismack Byombo Might Accept This Arrangement
1] Although he would have to wait 2 years, Bismack would get paid his full amount of money [$60,000,000].
2] Bismack would get to stay in Toronto with a city that appreciates and respects what he has to offer [President, Head Coach, Players, Fans, Others]
3] Bismack would stay with an organization which emphasizes and prioritizes his basketball strengths [defence]
4] Bismack would not have to take the risk of going to a new organization which may place a different emphasis on how they play basketball [such as emphasizing and prioritizing offense over defence]
Why Bismack Byombo Might Not Accept This Arrangement
1] Bismack would have to wait 2 years before he starts to get paid the major part of his money.
2] He could have a career ending injury within the next 2 years before he signs a full bird contract in his 3rd year [2018-2019].
Why The Raptors Might Accept This Arrangement
1] The Raptors would keep Bismack for 2 years at an extremely low price.
2] The Raptors would not have to rescind any free agent salary cap holds in order to sign Bismack.
3] The Raptors would not have to trade anyone in order to sign Bismack. If the Raptors want to make a trade, then they would do so for other reasons but not to sign Bismack.
4] Because Bismack would sign a 2 year Non-Tax Mid Level Exception contract, the Raptors could use the Non-Tax Mid Level Exception again the next year [2017-2018] to sign another free agent.
Why The Raptors Might Not Accept This Arrangement
1] Paying Bismack $24,245,500 both in 2018-2019 and 2019-2020 might appear to be too much money but:
a] This would be make up pay for the extremely low amounts paid in the first 2 years [2016-2017 and 2017-2018] and
b] With the increases in salaries over the next 2 years he would probably be offered that much money by another team when he becomes a free agent again [2018-2019].twitter.com/anthonysmdoyle
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Why the Raptors might not accept this arrangement:
If the NBA ever found out there was any such agreement ahead of time, it would be considered cap circumvention, Biyombo's contract would be voided, the Raps would face fines and other penalties including loss of draft picks.
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DonM wrote: View PostWhy Bismack Byombo Might Not Accept This Arrangement
1] Bismack would have to wait 2 years before he starts to get paid the major part of his money.
2] He could have a career ending injury within the next 2 years before he signs a full bird contract in his 3rd year [2018-2019].Two beer away from being two beers away.
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Mess wrote: View PostOr the Playoff Shine will have worn off by then and the Raps could easily renege on paying him $24M a season.
But Dan nailed it. The Joe Smith penalty would destroy a franchise for years.
And this isn't doing an under the table deal for Steph Curry or Lebron. I've said good things about Biz all year, but give your head a shake - you'd risk those penalties for Bismack Biyombo?Last edited by 3inthekeon; Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:13 PM.If we knew half as much about coaching an NBA team as we think, we"d know twice as much as we do.
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DanH wrote: View PostI try not to pimp my own stuff very much, but I've got a big salary prep piece for the upcoming draft and free agency up right now that I think is worth a read (note: I may be biased in this matter).
http://www.raptorshq.com/2016/6/1/11...p-update-draft
For those who prefer not to click to read the excess verbage, here are the raw numbers for at the draft:
DeMarre Carroll $13,600,000
Kyle Lowry $12,000,000
DeMar DeRozan $10,050,000
Cory Joseph $7,000,000
Patrick Patterson $6,268,675
Jonas Valanciunas $4,660,482
Terrence Ross $3,553,917
Luis Scola $2,900,000
Bismack Biyombo $2,814,000
James Johnson $2,500,000
Lucas Nogueira $1,842,000
Bruno Caboclo $1,524,000
Delon Wright $1,509,360
Norman Powell $650,000
Jason Thompson $245,177
Ronald Roberts $75,000
Axel Toupane $25,000
Michale Kyser $25,000
Shannon Scott $25,000
Nando de Colo $1,900,000
Total committed salary: $73,169,511
Salary Cap: $70,000,000
Luxury Tax: $84,740,000
Tax Apron (Hard Cap): $88,740,000
And this summer:
Jonas Valanciunas $14,382,024
DeMarre Carroll $14,200,000
Kyle Lowry $12,000,000
Terrence Ross $10,000,000
Cory Joseph $7,315,000
Patrick Patterson $6,050,000
Lucas Nogueira $1,921,320
Bruno Caboclo $1,589,640
Delon Wright $1,577,280
Norman Powell $874,636
Cap projection: $92,000,000
Salary committed: $71M
With draft picks: $73.2M
And cap holds:
DeMar DeRozan $15,225,000
Luis Scola $3,480,000
Bismack Biyombo $3,376,800
James Johnson $3,250,000
Nando de Colo $1,900,000
Jason Thompson $1,136,731
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Puffer wrote: View PostGood article Dan. Pimp your stuff anytime. You should be writing for RR. Of course you are, but I mean on the front page.
It was a possibility at one point. I had done some support stuff and enough commentary that there was some discussion of something like that, but the timing was off as I had just started at RapsHQ (both sites had gone through a bit of an overhaul in terms of writers at around the same time).
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As noted in the DeRozan thread, he made even more incentives than expected this year (with the Raps making the ECF his playoff bonus went from $250k to $450k), so his salary was actually 10.35M instead of 10.15M, and his cap hold this summer is going up from the assumed 15.225M to 15.525M. It's only 300k but it's worth noting.
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DanH wrote: View PostAs noted in the DeRozan thread, he made even more incentives than expected this year (with the Raps making the ECF his playoff bonus went from $250k to $450k), so his salary was actually 10.35M instead of 10.15M, and his cap hold this summer is going up from the assumed 15.225M to 15.525M. It's only 300k but it's worth noting.
i'm happy he did the most amount of work for his 200 k
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