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  • slaw wrote: View Post
    Trudeau got embarrassed at the pics of Ford yesterday moving masks so now our PM is leaving his 28-day isolation.
    Gotta admit..... he's far from perfect, but Dougie has been doing a pretty good job during this crisis.

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    • golden wrote: View Post

      Gotta admit..... he's far from perfect, but Dougie has been doing a pretty good job during this crisis.
      That's because he's a regular dude, for better or worse. The worlds needs more "roll up your sleeves and drop it off yourself in a pickup" type of leaders right now, it's starting to give me nausea listening to all the bureaucratic suits tell us how to live, including Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci.
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      • KeonClark wrote: View Post

        That's because he's a regular dude, for better or worse. The worlds needs more "roll up your sleeves and drop it off yourself in a pickup" type of leaders right now, it's starting to give me nausea listening to all the bureaucratic suits tell us how to live, including Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci.
        Yeah, regular people care about people... and it shows. Elitists, narcissists, experts, bureaucrats, academics care about how smart you think they are.

        I'm still livid at the CDC, WHO, US Surgeon General, Dr. Tam, etc... telling people NOT to wear masks. Sort of like telling people to run back into a burning building.

        They could have just said ".... it's an evolving situation... we don't know if masks will help or harm." But no, they had to forcefully scold the public not to wear masks, and put on the air that they f*cking KNOW everything - even if that means giving you the worst possible advice. It's just too painful for some people to utter the words ... "I don't know."

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        • suspenders wrote: View Post

          What I have a hard time understanding is that if a vaccine isn't available for mass distribution for another year, and we relax social distancing gatherings to say, 50-100 people at a time, and then one person gets "infected" and infects the rest, and so on and so on, and there's another "outbreak", do we shut the world down again for periods of times in order to contain the virus?

          I have a number of friends who own small businesses or work for small business and they are all suffering right now, and I don't know when or if they'll recover.

          I've spoken to people who are so petrified of the virus that even when we're allowed back in public, they'll continue a lot of what they're currently doing, including working from home, not going to the gym, not going to restaurants or gather in public places, etc. I still don't know what the fallout from this is going to be over the next while...
          You hit the nail on the head here. Re-opening the businesses will help but the real issue here will be people/consumer attitudes after all this. Governments, the press, all kinds of media (traditional and online), did a heck of a job in absolutely terrifying people about this. So there will be many people choosing to stay cooped up even after curve is flat, and even among those who will choose to participate in society again, many won't have the disposable income to do so anymore (because of job/income instability)

          There's a cost to being a bubble-wrap society and we're unfortunately about to pay it. Alberta government is forecasting a peak unemployment rate of about 25% after this. Several provinces may hover around that. For reference, the highest unemployment in U.S. History was 24.9% in 1933. If there's anyone who don't know their history and don't know what that period is called or how things looked like back then, go read about it. Then if you have time, just for kicks, read about what happened afterwards in the early 40's.

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          • "We have chosen a strategy of trying to flatten the curve and not get too dramatic a process because then the healthcare system probably will not cope," he told Sweden's Dagens Nyheter newspaper, according to The Guardian. "But it also means that we will have more seriously ill people who need intensive care. We will have significantly more deaths. We will count the dead in thousands."
            well damn that is cold blooded. And sound like a man who is sure that he will be reelected.

            But it looks like socialist country that values collective over individualism will be ok with sacrifices. If Swedes are ok with it then I guess others have no right to judge.

            https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...xpected-2020-4
            Last edited by MixxAOR; Wed Apr 8th, 2020, 02:39 PM.
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            • MixxAOR wrote: View Post

              well damn that is cold blooded. And sound like a man who is sure that he will be reelected.

              But it looks like socialist country that values collective over individualism will be ok with sacrifices. If Swedes are ok with it then I guess others have no right to judge.

              https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...xpected-2020-4
              Which region is not going to count deaths in the thousands? Alberta is claiming thousands. Ontario is claiming thousands. No matter what anyone has done social distance wise, we all lose people.

              everybody's trying to peer pressure Sweden to lock down, to me they're exposing the cost benefit of this. The big disaster is still "just around the corner" just like it was when we discussed this last week

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              • KeonClark wrote: View Post

                Which region is not going to count deaths in the thousands? Alberta is claiming thousands. Ontario is claiming thousands. No matter what anyone has done social distance wise, we all lose people.

                everybody's trying to peer pressure Sweden to lock down, to me they're exposing the cost benefit of this. The big disaster is still "just around the corner" just like it was when we discussed this last week
                Yep - because they don't want their respective constituents going back to them asking them WTF did we do to ourselves.

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                • KeonClark wrote: View Post

                  That's because he's a regular dude, for better or worse. The worlds needs more "roll up your sleeves and drop it off yourself in a pickup" type of leaders right now, it's starting to give me nausea listening to all the bureaucratic suits tell us how to live, including Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci.
                  Bill Gates: everyone needs to do their part and self isolate at home
                  Me: don't you live in a 66,000 sq ft house?
                  Bill: yes, but we've had to lay off all but 7 of our chefs and 9 of our house keepers ....

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                  • inthepaint wrote: View Post

                    You hit the nail on the head here. Re-opening the businesses will help but the real issue here will be people/consumer attitudes after all this. Governments, the press, all kinds of media (traditional and online), did a heck of a job in absolutely terrifying people about this. So there will be many people choosing to stay cooped up even after curve is flat, and even among those who will choose to participate in society again, many won't have the disposable income to do so anymore (because of job/income instability)

                    There's a cost to being a bubble-wrap society and we're unfortunately about to pay it. Alberta government is forecasting a peak unemployment rate of about 25% after this. Several provinces may hover around that. For reference, the highest unemployment in U.S. History was 24.9% in 1933. If there's anyone who don't know their history and don't know what that period is called or how things looked like back then, go read about it. Then if you have time, just for kicks, read about what happened afterwards in the early 40's.
                    The positive from all this is more people may finally learn to wash their hands after a piss and wipe down the equipment at the gym after their sweaty squats....

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                    • KeonClark wrote: View Post

                      Which region is not going to count deaths in the thousands? Alberta is claiming thousands. Ontario is claiming thousands. No matter what anyone has done social distance wise, we all lose people.

                      everybody's trying to peer pressure Sweden to lock down, to me they're exposing the cost benefit of this. The big disaster is still "just around the corner" just like it was when we discussed this last week
                      All of Canada only has 381 .... you're thinking cases I believe

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                      • Well, I found out something funny yesterday, that is specifically related to what COVID-19 has done to society. One of my clients owns (bought them out ten years ago) the Canadian Woodenware Company. He picked up all of their circa 1906 woodworking machinery, design rights, lead type, and a press they use to print on their wooden products. He wants me to move forward on running YouTube ads for him because of a sudden spike in sales.

                        He makes wooden washboards pretty much the same way they were making them in the early 1900's.

                        He told me that sales have picked up and he noticed that a lot of the washboards were going to apartments. Could it be that folks don't want to go use the communal laundry facilities, with their painted metal surfaces, on which the virus can live for 7 days? Maybe folks are not getting their clothes dirty at the same rate, just sitting at home in their apartments. So a washboard will let you get away with just doing socks, underwear, T-shirts, and two pair of jammy pants a week. Easy to do by hand in your safe environment.

                        I just think it is funny. Every cloud...

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                        • The news tells me New York City is the epicenter of the world right now. We are all shut down to avoid turning into the next epicenter. Are their hospitals now overrun? People dying in the streets? This is apparently the peak right now, surely there must be horrible sights seen, its caused the entire world to shut down, even Saskatchewan! You're telling me they're scaring people in Duck Lake, Saskatchewan to stay inside to stop the hospitals from being overrun, but New York City is still handling it?
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                          • KeonClark wrote: View Post
                            The news tells me New York City is the epicenter of the world right now. We are all shut down to avoid turning into the next epicenter. Are their hospitals now overrun? People dying in the streets? This is apparently the peak right now, surely there must be horrible sights seen, its caused the entire world to shut down, even Saskatchewan! You're telling me they're scaring people in Duck Lake, Saskatchewan to stay inside to stop the hospitals from being overrun, but New York City is still handling it?
                            I don't think New York is really "handling it" well but the rest of your point is well taken. Others will say we're doing this to avoid being New York.

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                            • G__Deane wrote: View Post

                              I don't think New York is really "handling it" well but the rest of your point is well taken. Others will say we're doing this to avoid being New York.
                              I'm not trying to sound cold and callous although I surely am, but anybody who steps back and looks at all this must be able to see something amiss. I will remind everyone weve had multiple contagious pandemics in the last 50 years kill millions. But this is the first one thats obsessed over lockdowns and a vaccine. Obsessed is used lightly. It's become our entire lives. Inescapable.
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                              • KeonClark wrote: View Post
                                The news tells me New York City is the epicenter of the world right now. We are all shut down to avoid turning into the next epicenter. Are their hospitals now overrun? People dying in the streets? This is apparently the peak right now, surely there must be horrible sights seen, its caused the entire world to shut down, even Saskatchewan! You're telling me they're scaring people in Duck Lake, Saskatchewan to stay inside to stop the hospitals from being overrun, but New York City is still handling it?
                                The news is telling you that because it's true. There ARE horrible sights in NYC and yes the people working in hospitals would tell you they are overwhelmed and overrun. There are already double the number of deaths in New York from Covid-19 than there were from Sept 11th 2001. My God, let that sink in. Yes we should absolutely be scared and try our hardest to avoid turning into the next New York. How many New York deaths does it take to take this more seriously? Triple the deaths of 911? Quadruple the deaths of 911?

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