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golden wrote: View Post
The weaknesses of democracy, freedom and people's rights are getting pushed to the extreme these days.9 time first team all-RR, First Ballot Hall of Forum
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Yeah it's corruption, it's politics, it's their broken health care system, it's even the issue of states rights - states are flat out ignoring the president and doing whatever they want, some are taking this seriously and some seem to not care unless the look bad on Twitter. It's a mess."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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S.R. wrote: View PostYeah it's corruption, it's politics, it's their broken health care system, it's even the issue of states rights - states are flat out ignoring the president and doing whatever they want, some are taking this seriously and some seem to not care unless the look bad on Twitter. It's a mess.
As for corruption and politics, the current relief bill working through parliament gives the government unfettered power to spend as much money as possible for 18 months without review, disclosure or accountability to any person it deems. It also previously gave the Liberals the power to tax at will without parliamentary approval (though even that was too much for the NDP/BQ/Greens to stomach). And as for the US's broken health care system, you need look no further than likely your local hospital to understand why in Canada we are doing what we are doing: our system is not prepare for and cannot handle a disaster.
We all have our problems.
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I still would like to understand what is happening in Italy. Now, we obviously will never know the truth about places like China and Iran but every other western or western-influenced country has managed to deal with this so far without the staggering death tolls. And, from what I can tell, most of it is happening in a few places and not the whole country. Something has seriously gone wrong.
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nubreed000 wrote: View Post
Has it already been confirmed that people will build an immunity to it?
That question is not raised much in the media though, because if that's indeed the case, it would be a positive development. They don't want to have positive takes on this right now because since the government haven't forcibly quarantined everyone yet, they have to rely on scaring people into staying home. That's been the tactic worldwide. Certain countries/societies are used to that. However, in free societies as ours that's less common, so more people struggle with it.Last edited by inthepaint; Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:18 PM.
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slaw wrote: View Post
It's the United States of America for a reason. Not every state can or will take the same steps nor should they. What is required in NYC is not necessarily required in Idaho (for obvious reasons).
As for corruption and politics, the current relief bill working through parliament gives the government unfettered power to spend as much money as possible for 18 months without review, disclosure or accountability to any person it deems. It also previously gave the Liberals the power to tax at will without parliamentary approval (though even that was too much for the NDP/BQ/Greens to stomach). And as for the US's broken health care system, you need look no further than likely your local hospital to understand why in Canada we are doing what we are doing: our system is not prepare for and cannot handle a disaster.
We all have our problems.
All Canadian provinces and territories are taking this response far more seriously than several of the US' most populous states. That's not even debatable right now and it's going to have a massive impact over the coming weeks, unfortunately. The most vulnerable people in the US are going to get the worst of this."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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slaw wrote: View Post
It's the United States of America for a reason. Not every state can or will take the same steps nor should they. What is required in NYC is not necessarily required in Idaho (for obvious reasons).
As for corruption and politics, the current relief bill working through parliament gives the government unfettered power to spend as much money as possible for 18 months without review, disclosure or accountability to any person it deems. It also previously gave the Liberals the power to tax at will without parliamentary approval (though even that was too much for the NDP/BQ/Greens to stomach). And as for the US's broken health care system, you need look no further than likely your local hospital to understand why in Canada we are doing what we are doing: our system is not prepare for and cannot handle a disaster.
We all have our problems.
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
That's how every virus works; it is the principle through which vaccines are made - exposing the patients to viral components in an attenuated form to prompt the patient's own immune system to prevent a second infection to take hold. Exposures to the actual virus are supposed to be even more effective in developing an immunity to later infections. The problem with flu-type virus like this is that they can mutate a lot (that's why the seasonal flu shot is a yearly thing as opposed to, say, polio where you need to take only once in life and maybe a booster later on), but individuals should develop an immunity for the specific strain they caught after they recover.
That question is not raised much in the media though, because if that's indeed the case, it would be a positive development. They don't want to have positive takes on this right now because since the government haven't forcibly quarantined everyone yet, they have to rely on scaring people into staying home. That's been the tactic worldwide. Certain countries/societies are used to that. However, in free societies as ours that's less common, so more people struggle with it.
I'm basing my skepticism on this article: https://arstechnica.com/science/2020...onavirus/2/#h6
I know that with the flu, they inject you with a "dead" version of the strain they THINK will be circulating that year to prep your body from it. But from what I've gathered thus far, nobody truly knows what will happen with this new virus and how our bodies will adapt, and how long the potential immunity will last.
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More than 86,000 people worldwide have now recovered from the lung disease COVID-19. In those cases, the infection manifested itself in mild to moderate form, or it is because these patients received excellent medical care.Now researchers in Hong Kong have said that recovered coronavirus patients can be left with damaged lungs.
A small study of 12 patients discharged from hospital showed that two or three had reduced lung function. However, it is too early to confirm any long-term effects.
"In some patients, lung function could decline by about 20 to 30% after recovery," says Dr. Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the Infectious Diseases Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Hong Kong.Are recovered COVID-19 patients immune?
The majority of virologists are convinced that recovered COVID-19 patients are immune to the new SARS-CoV-2 virus after the infection has run its course. After all, the body's own immune system has produced precisely those antibodies during the infection that render the pathogen harmless.
This all-clear also applies to those who had only a weak course of the disease and showed ofew to no symptoms. Nevertheless, their immune systems reacted to the pathogen and produced the corresponding antibodies. A renewed infection with the new coronavirus is therefore highly unlikely.Only one thing matters: We The Champs.
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golden wrote: View Post
Remember when our biggest national problem was Don Cherry chastising "you people" for not wearing poppies? Ahhh... the good old days!
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