Everything Coronavirus

[SkywalkerAC]

Trust in public health authorities is diminished. They have only themselves to blame.

Restriction/guideline fatigue is pretty natural at this point, but yeah consistency and competency helps.

[KHD]

Trust in public health authorities is diminished. They have only themselves to blame.

thanks to public health and epidemiology "experts", we will actually have a crisis in ontario in a few weeks/months as the surgical backlog competes with COVID-19 for space.

In the end, all that the woke "epi-twitter" assholes have accomplished is to delay some COVID deaths at the expense of preventable deaths due to cancer and other diseases. The field of infectious disease epidemiology has become pure junk science.

[SkywalkerAC]

[KHD]

add a 3rd axis for "lockdown strictness" and you'll end up with a random spherical scattering of points with no meaningful correlations whatsoever.

In the end, this is almost entirely a nursing home disease.

Thus, i suspect the only useful correlation that could be drawn, if the data were available, would be that between care home quality (surrogate measurements -> pay rate for workers, per capita spending, etc) and deaths per million.

Interestingly, care homes are not such a big thing in the Asian countries that have done so much better by these metrics. That is where I would look for the real signal.

The rest of this is just torturing data points for political posturing.

[inthepaint]

Hey, check it out, we're number 1

https://financialpost.com/opinion/ja...1-in-the-world

[KHD]

imagine being surprised by this?

Jesus christ people in public health and epidemiology are fucking morons.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/202...d-cancers.html

[Joey]

Hey, check it out, we're number 1

https://financialpost.com/opinion/ja...1-in-the-world

All of that writing to just speculate that it's the WE scandal running us higher? Weak, even for the Financial Post.
We're 1.6% higher than all of EU combined. That doesn't seem astronomical, especially when we're looking % of GDP and not overall spending.

Also, if US handled the pandemic even slightly better than they did (let's be honest, there was plenty of room for improvement), they'd be right on par with us as well.

[G__Deane]

All of that writing to just speculate that it's the WE scandal running us higher? Weak, even for the Financial Post.

Cool, except that's not really what it says:

"More likely, the real reason for our sky-high deficit and spending is that we have been throwing money around much more liberally (no pun intended) than other countries. The prime example is the WE Charity scandal, in which, halfway through the student summer, a $1-billion program was going to bepiled on to an already generous commitment of $8 billion to assist post-secondary students. Another is the federal government’s decision to maintain bi-weekly $1,000 Canada Recovery Benefit cheques all the way to Sept. 25, 2021 (albeit subject to a 10 per cent withholding tax) even though the economy is doing much better now than it was in March/April.

Note that the CRB is subject to a 50 per cent clawback for each dollar earned above $38,000. Because the payment does not differentiate between full-time and part-time work, however, most part-time workers will get the entire benefit — unlike full-timers paid the same weekly wage. Thus the CRB will act as a work disincentive, causing many part-timers to delay joining the work force.

Overall, so much federal money has been spent that on average Canadians have more personal income today than they did pre-COVID — even though average employment income has fallen dramatically. Doling out money may be a politician’s dream, but it will be a nightmare for our children and grandchildren when the bill comes due.

[Joey]

Cool, except that's not really what it says:

"More likely, the real reason for our sky-high deficit and spending is that we have been throwing money around much more liberally (no pun intended) than other countries. The prime example is the WE Charity scandal, in which, halfway through the student summer, a $1-billion program was going to bepiled on to an already generous commitment of $8 billion to assist post-secondary students. Another is the federal government’s decision to maintain bi-weekly $1,000 Canada Recovery Benefit cheques all the way to Sept. 25, 2021 (albeit subject to a 10 per cent withholding tax) even though the economy is doing much better now than it was in March/April.

Note that the CRB is subject to a 50 per cent clawback for each dollar earned above $38,000. Because the payment does not differentiate between full-time and part-time work, however, most part-time workers will get the entire benefit — unlike full-timers paid the same weekly wage. Thus the CRB will act as a work disincentive, causing many part-timers to delay joining the work force.

Overall, so much federal money has been spent that on average Canadians have more personal income today than they did pre-COVID — even though average employment income has fallen dramatically. Doling out money may be a politician’s dream, but it will be a nightmare for our children and grandchildren when the bill comes due.

I mean ... it is what it says though ... it says other things, obviously, but to put that in there is just hilarious to me.

Rest of my points stand.

[Demographic Shift]

I mean ... it is what it says though ... it says other things, obviously, but to put that in there is just hilarious to me.

Rest of my points stand.

The best part of your surety that running an unchecked anchorless balance sheet (Skippy’s budget) far far in excess of revenues ( current taxes, current service charges, current one time fees etc) is that you personally will have to pay for it.

This will be on top of this year’s 53% taxes you pay already if you are “rich” and make more than 60K.
29% to Justin
11% to Doug
5% to Justin on the GST.
8% to Doug for PST.
And....
All those rich (@60K ) people tax’s are going to go up. They have to. New debt needs both new taxes and higher existing taxes to service all that spending.
And you my friend are on the hook for it. For a long long long time. The boomers will be dead. That leaves you to pick up the tab.
Probably another 4 to 5 points..spread over the consumption taxes, federal and provincial withholding taxes and the looming fuel tax disguised as an environmental tax. Property taxes if your fortunate enough your own place will also rise. Toronto City Council is never short on grand visions that have to be paid for. And those puppies come out of a shrinking after tax income.

It'll be sobering...you may even ask yourself why you blithely ignored the notion of putting some kind of limit on Justin’s unlimited credit card. That boy sure likes to spend big with other people’s money.

[Apollo]

• Dr. Albert Bourla, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, hailed the trial results as a “great day for science and humanity.”
• Pfizer and BioNTech said the case split between vaccinated individuals and those who received a placebo indicated a vaccine efficacy rate of above 90% at seven days after the second dose.
• It means that protection from Covid-19 is achieved 28 days after the initial vaccination, which consists of a two-dose schedule.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/09/covi...infection.html

Excellent news if the vaccine is safe.

[Dior1981]

Virologist. Worked in a hospital. Now am the epidemiologist, I can say for sure that covid is not transmitted through airborne droplets, it is a virus that can be infected like hepatitis, like flu, it is not transmitted. These are dirty hands, constantly unwashed vegetables and fruits, unwashed eggs (shells), there are no viruses, since masks would not have saved and people would have been sick long ago. It's just that many people know how to relax, and those who are in health care know and are silent about something, and one cannot talk about it. You can read https://orendabotanicals.com/ about drugs patients had to get in cause they wanted to limit the pain.
This is the same as with AIDS, when disposable syringes were introduced into the market, and the disease did not exist and does not exist. Why do you think the EU countries do not want to introduce the vaccine? Because it is necessary to install the sale of masks, disposable droppers on the flow!!!

[Primer]

Bump.

This is the place to argue about Coronavirus, vaccines, etc...

[Bendit]

A podcast (w/transcript) discussing the Kyrie/NBA position on his vaccine status ...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/podca...re-top-stories

[Apollo]

In order to pick up for ordinary people, Kyrie opted to give up his best platform and instead sit at home, collecting $19M this year to do nothing. Very relatable to ordinary people who don't believe in vaccines right? Oh and I'm sure all his clout with politicians will get things done. They need just look at his beliefs in flat earth, illuminati and aliens to know he's a credible, serious customer representing people just like him.