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Apollo wrote: View Post
Good points. I am unsure that Kyle has any more faith in Siakim than he did in DD however. That's not me saying DD is a better player, don't get me wrong.
Since Nurse though, Lowry's role seems to fit more into who he really is as a player (a facilitator with a lot of hustle and extremely high BBIQ especially when it comes to anticipating plays on the both ends of the floor). I think that really helped him mentally and physically last year, so I'm crossing the fingers this year will be similar.
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S.R. wrote: View Post
Well, yes and no. Sometimes it plays out this way, but often there's a double or the defence shifts but standard practice is your star takes the shot anyway. Everyone's more comfortable with winning/losing on the back of their superstar. It doesn't always mean other shots aren't there. Lebron on mulitple of the highest stake playoff occasions has kicked the ball to open role player shooters - and catches a ton of flak for it. The shots are there if your guy wants to make the pass.
But you're right in that a set NBA defence in these situations can often blow up your plays. Your star needs to break that down.
The big question for the Raps comes out of your last line: can Siakam break down defenses to find the play that gets them points and can he do it over and over again.
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People seriously needs to stop overreacting in these scrimmage games. First Bol Bol is the second coming. Now people are doubting Kawhi because he shot 27% from the field in 3 scrimmage games. Lol.
Prediction: Kawhi is gonna be great and Bol Bol is gonna be a bench player for the Nuggets.Mamba Mentality
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S.R. wrote: View Post
Well, yes and no. Sometimes it plays out this way, but often there's a double or the defence shifts but standard practice is your star takes the shot anyway. Everyone's more comfortable with winning/losing on the back of their superstar. It doesn't always mean other shots aren't there. Lebron on mulitple of the highest stake playoff occasions has kicked the ball to open role player shooters - and catches a ton of flak for it. The shots are there if your guy wants to make the pass.
But you're right in that a set NBA defence in these situations can often blow up your plays. Your star needs to break that down.slaw wrote: View Post
We agree. That guy needs to make a play but he doesn't need to force a shot.
The big question for the Raps comes out of your last line: can Siakam break down defenses to find the play that gets them points and can he do it over and over again.
Lebron is a good case study in playoff team basketball. One of the things that made those Cavs teams so dangerous was Lebron's passing ability and court vision. Teams were coming to the realization that they could maybe survive Lebron putting up 30, but they couldn't allow that plus 12 assists as kickouts to corner 3's from Irving, Love, Korver, Frye etc... That broke many opposing teams in their championship run. In other words, in the clutch, the play would always go through Lebron, but teams would always be on their toes trying to guess if it was gonna be a laser pass to yet another corner 3, or if he was gonna muscle his way in with his speed/strength.
Another example of counting on your star but in the context of a motion offence was the pre-Durant Golden State teams. Ultimately yes, you would always want Curry to take the clutch shot, but on tight games you would almost never see him just dribbling out for a static, forced shot - there would always be tons of off-ball screens, movement, Klay spacing the floor, even Draymond & Bogut ready to catch in the paint if they over-played Steph. They put a ton of strain on opposing defences. "Strength in numbers" was their thing.
That's also my hope for Siakam - he's gotta have the ability to collapse defences on him, find way to finish through contact if he has to, but also be aware of that he'll probably have at least 2 or 3 other champions on the floor with deep playoff experience, shooting over 38% from deep (and higher when open), which is a better shot than a Siakam hero ball fade away long 2 at the end of the clock over a double/triple defender.
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Apollo wrote: View Post
It will be interesting to see what happens if Kyle falls back into some of his no show ways of the past. Will these guys continue to hit at a high rate? I'm not saying Kyle will choke but what if he does choke? He's been a roller coaster at times in the past. I'm hoping the ring keeps such slumps away.
We all hope Pascal will become that guy that can carry us through big games, but the Playoffs this season will be a team effort more than anything.Last edited by A.I; Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:59 PM.
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Yeah, the thing a top 5 star does in those situation is impose himself on the defence and force the defence to react. Without that, you find a set, high quality defence imposes itself on your offence (the Lowry/DD/Casey playoffs).
Through whatever combination of elite size/speed/skill, your star just demands the defence adjusts to him or he'll break it, because you just can't guard those guys straight up.
I don't think Siakam's there yet at all. Against some teams, maybe a Boston, you can straight iso him and trust him to break it down. But last year he had trouble against long, athletic defenders and teams were able to leave those guys on him one on one. If he faces Simmons, Giannis, Kawhi etc one on one at end of game? I don't think those teams need to throw a double at all.
In those cases the Raps need to run something, at least a high pnr to start it off instead of a straight up clear the side iso. Give Siakam a bit of time then run some off ball action in case he can't shake the defender, don't just hang him out to dry with the ball in his hands (the Casey approach)."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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In the half court, I'm hoping more that Gasol can become a reliable scorer around the post and midrange and average 15-17 points a game than Siakam taking the next step. Last season Gasol joined the team half way through the season, took a backseat and played off of Kawhi, Kyle and Pascal. He didn't get much rest through the off season and dealt with a few injuries. He has slimmed down and got a lot of rest, so hopefully we see a better Gasol.
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LJ2 wrote: View PostThe more I think about it, I wonder if the ball will be hands of one of the guards in these situations. Siakam doesn't have a step back jumper yet which you sort of need in these iso situations, no?
Pascal will probably play decoy for our guards ( Norm, Fr3d or Kyl3 )Last edited by Kagemusha; Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:12 AM.
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I agree, I'm hoping Marc hets more involved on offence. Not just from three, I think you give him carte blanche to shoot any mid range that comes his way. He used to be a killer 16ft in. Throw him some post options to keep him comfortable at the rim. I don't expect him to create his own shots, but I think Nick can find ways to help him get more involved.
Gasol and Norm are going to be the keys to elevating our half court offence.
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Jclaw wrote: View Postah...so this is where we're talking about the LaLa game
Oh well something will happen soon i can make fun of him forTo be the champs you got to beat the champs
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