Being opportunistic with the IND situation

[DanH]

Oh, and Zillgitt in no way suggests that they get actual cap relief - he is just misusing the phrase. They get an exception to sign a player. Read the entire article and at no point does he suggest that George's salary actually comes off the books.

[DanH]

Hmm.. I'm interpreting it the same way that Jeff Zillgitt from USA today is:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lief/13506951/

I always thought you could get cap relief.

Nope. Can't.

[planetmars]

DPE =/= salary cap relief. That paragraph is outlining the difference.

Hmm.. I'm interpreting it the same way that Jeff Zillgitt from USA today is:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...lief/13506951/

I always thought you could get cap relief.

[OptimalOptimist]

West is a nice player but he would be a short term fix to a situation which isn't even broken. I clearly don't want a 34yo PF who posted his career lowest shooting % from the mid range last season.

[ezz_bee]

I'd rather make a peripheral trade like Hayes for Mahimni than try to land west. I love the way he plays, but it's not that much of an upgrade over what Amir and PP bring.

[DanH]

Don't confuse the Disabled Player exception with the salary cap relief teams sometimes receive after losing a player to a career-ending injury or death (see question number 63). The Disabled Player exception allows a team to acquire a replacement player. The salary cap relief removes a contract from the team's books.

DPE =/= salary cap relief. That paragraph is outlining the difference.

[planetmars]

Yeah, but George's full salary still counts against the cap and tax, so since they are about $2M clear of the tax now, do you really think ownership pays that much to maybe add a mediocre player to slightly increase their chances of making the playoffs this year?

Are you sure about that.. if I interpret the CBA faq it seems to me that if a team files for a DPE that players salary is not on the books for that year:

Don't confuse the Disabled Player exception with the salary cap relief teams sometimes receive after losing a player to a career-ending injury or death (see question number 63). The Disabled Player exception allows a team to acquire a replacement player. The salary cap relief removes a contract from the team's books.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25

So if I'm reading this right the Pacers cap situation can come down from $74.8M to $64.1M (they hypothetically lose George's $16M salary and gain the Non-tax payer mid-level of $5.3M). The team would still have to pay PG his salary but I don't think it would be considered for tax purposes.

[DanH]

If Indiana decides they want to still try to compete this year, they can apply for a disabled player exception, giving them a $5.4 million exception, and then sign a free agent to a 1 year deal... unfortunately, they missed most of the free agent market, but someone like Shawn Marion might be a fit.

Yeah, but George's full salary still counts against the cap and tax, so since they are about $2M clear of the tax now, do you really think ownership pays that much to maybe add a mediocre player to slightly increase their chances of making the playoffs this year?

[octothorp]

If Indiana decides they want to still try to compete this year, they can apply for a disabled player exception, giving them a $5.4 million exception, and then sign a free agent to a 1 year deal... unfortunately, they missed most of the free agent market, but someone like Shawn Marion might be a fit.

[tonious35]

This whole topic is reality, but shit I don't want to talk about this topic until a month passes because it will totally kill all the karma we built up last year.

[chch166]

I don't really like this move if it happened

He doesn't fit with this teams offense really. We are a young team, and while West is great in the halfcourt system, he isn't a transition guy. He doesn't space the floor that allows JV to go to work, or let DD & Lowry slash. Plus, West would be tired from running pindowns all game for DD & Ross.

I like Kevin Love, he fits in the teams approach, but thats a risky move.
I like Kevin Durant, cause he's an obvious need at SF and he's Durant, but it will be hard to pry him from OKC.
I like Harrison Barnes, because he's someone that could be had for cheaper than his value, and could be an impact player at SF.
I like Tobias Harris, and he could be had for cheap because he's stuck in a crowded frontcourt in Orlando.

Moves like these have the potential for impacts, and help us right away to be honest.

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I like Tobias as a player but too injury prone this guy never had a injury free season

[psrs1]

We should be a lock for top 4 seed if not higher depending upon Dereick Roae and Cavs.

D Rose.

[psrs1]

Man the Pacers will suck big time, I don't see them making the playoff this year and might be in the lottery

We should be a lock for top 4 seed if not higher depending upon Dereick Roae and Cavs.

[psrs1]

Not sure I want to pay $12mm a year for a marginal upgrade who is turning 34 this month.

If we're going to make moves, we either need to make small, shrewd, opportunistic moves or massive, powerhouse moves. The in-between stuff is quite often too high a risk for too small a reward.

I think the only piece on Indy that might be a nice fit for us is Ian Mahinmi. Vet backup C with solid defense and playoff experience.

Agreed. Too much money for marginal gains.

[tenforthewin]

Man the Pacers will suck big time, I don't see them making the playoff this year and might be in the lottery