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GAME 7, ECSF: Boston Celtics @ Toronto Raptors - Friday September 11th, 9pm ET - TSN/TNT

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  • Hotshot
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  • GOLDBLUM
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    consmap wrote: View Post

    Hahah oh man here we go again. Setting bad records. Life of a Raps fan
    Franchise record... just a franchise record at least! lol ugh

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  • iblastoff
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    siakam was obviously straight trash. no excuses. he had the entire bubble period to get going and was subpar in nearly every single game. raptors even had the advantage of arriving early and having more practice than other teams. dude couldnt even show up for a potential season-ending game 5 and then was even WORSE in game 7.

    he was too scared to take a single 3 in this game save for the airball when it was already over.

    dude was MIP and an all-star starter. that comes with expectations. he met absolutely none of them.

    tatum is only 22. siakam is already 26. theres very little time left for him to get it together. if the expectation now is that hes just a 2nd fiddle, well then thats basically back to derozan problems again. because unless giannis comes in 2021, siakam will be 'the guy' for years to come.

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  • consmap
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    GOLDBLUM wrote: View Post
    Hahah oh man here we go again. Setting bad records. Life of a Raps fan

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  • Fear_the_BC
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    can't teach wingspan wrote: View Post

    I mean, yeah, mental health is a thing that varies from person to person and many players handle it differently, though I think it's potentially harsh considering players have lost family members in the middle of a worldwide pandemic. Regarding regular playoff-related stress last year, Siakam was just peachy.

    I haven't seen the bubble being used by Siakam as an excuse for his play (EDIT: post game he's accepting a lot of the blame), but it is certainly a variable or a potential explanation. Just like how he didn't start playing basketball until later in life is a potential variable regarding why his handle resulted in 8 turnovers. It's not an excuse, and the age he started playing is certainly nothing he can control now, but it better explains the situation. Excuses and explanations/potential variables aren't the same thing.

    I'm hopeful for him. This isn't a DeRozan situation like people are freaking out about. He plays defense, etc etc and given his past success in the playoffs, Siakam seems like someone who can rebound from this playoff season for next year.
    ya give him that ..he plays D ...too bad he had 5 TOs today tho

    ah well ..it's Boston year ..they were clearly the better team talent wise....raps just scrappy

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  • The Great One
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    Listen to Shaq. It's exactly what I'm saying. Being a great player is a mindset. Siakam is just happy to be a role player.

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  • can't teach wingspan
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    Fear_the_BC wrote: View Post

    agreed ..he needs a superstar...

    bubble affected him ? that's not really an excuse..the truly good players haven't really let them impact them in a negative way
    I mean, yeah, mental health is a thing that varies from person to person and many players handle it differently, though I think it's potentially harsh considering players have lost family members in the middle of a worldwide pandemic. Regarding regular playoff-related stress last year, Siakam was just peachy.

    I haven't seen the bubble being used by Siakam as an excuse for his play (EDIT: post game he's accepting a lot of the blame), but it is certainly a variable or a potential explanation. Just like how he didn't start playing basketball until later in life is a potential variable regarding why his handle resulted in 8 turnovers. It's not an excuse, and the age he started playing is certainly nothing he can control now, but it better explains the situation. Excuses and explanations/potential variables aren't the same thing.

    I'm hopeful for him. This isn't a DeRozan situation like people are freaking out about. He plays defense, etc etc and given his past success in the playoffs, Siakam seems like someone who can rebound from this playoff season for next year.
    Last edited by can't teach wingspan; Sat Sep 12, 2020, 02:05 AM.

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  • Fear_the_BC
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    The Great One wrote: View Post
    I also don't want to see any Lowry or DeRozan comparison. Those two struggled in the playoffs in the past but nothing like this. Did Siakam touched that Monstars basketball from Space Jam? is that the reason why he all of a sudden lost all of his skills?
    maybe he relies on the crowds energy ..regardless if it's home or away ..spectator sport

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  • Fear_the_BC
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    LJ2 wrote: View Post
    Great season and showed so much fight until the end. A couple of big contracts off the books now and big decisions to be made. Looking forward to see what Masai does.
    gasol to Orlando or Philly lol

    he's obviously gone tho

    someone will overpay for Ibaka and sign him longer than the raptors are willing to

    I suspect raptors will sign and overpay for the fvv, however...is there really an alternative?

    I dont believe there are notable PGs this year or even next year's stacked free agency

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  • The Great One
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    I also don't want to see any Lowry or DeRozan comparison. Those two struggled in the playoffs in the past but nothing like this. Did Siakam touched that Monstars basketball from Space Jam? is that the reason why he all of a sudden lost all of his skills?

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  • Fear_the_BC
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    can't teach wingspan wrote: View Post

    It's all about the role he has. Don't forget how Leonard/Siakam gave Jordan/Pippen records a run for their money last playoffs. First game of the Finals Siakam went wild. Plus the bubble, which clearly effected him, and the fact the Raptors have been in the bubble for two weeks longer than other teams because of the international travel quarantine.

    I mean Siakam was subpar this playoffs, including against Brooklyn, but he's shown in past playoffs that he can get it done in the right role.

    I swear people's memories keep getting shorter. Or maybe this is concern trolling, who can say?
    agreed ..he needs a superstar...

    bubble affected him ? that's not really an excuse..the truly good players haven't really let them impact them in a negative way

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  • can't teach wingspan
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    Fear_the_BC wrote: View Post

    but will he have that in the post season assuming they even make it ?
    It's all about the role he has. Don't forget how Leonard/Siakam gave Jordan/Pippen records a run for their money last playoffs. First game of the Finals Siakam went wild. Plus the bubble, which clearly effected him, and the fact the Raptors have been in the bubble for two weeks longer than other teams because of the international travel quarantine.

    I mean Siakam was subpar this playoffs, including against Brooklyn, but he's shown in past playoffs that he can get it done in the right role.

    I swear people's memories keep getting shorter. Or maybe this is concern trolling, who can say?

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  • consmap
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    S.R. wrote: View Post
    I'm still not convinced the Celtics starters aren't better without Hayward. Kemba/Smart/Brown/Tatum/Theis is just a really well balanced lineup that's tough as hell defensively. Hayward deepens their scoring and would obviously help over 7 games (instead of playing Wannamaker/Ojeleye) but he takes minutes from Smart/Brown too and that doesn't help. Raptors went hard at Kemba as the weak link, Hayward's also a middling defender and would have been another attack point for Toronto.
    I agree with this. Having Smart in that lineup was such a pain in the ass and could keep Kyle out of the picture unless they switched

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  • LJ2
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    Great season and showed so much fight until the end. A couple of big contracts off the books now and big decisions to be made. Looking forward to see what Masai does.

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