Everything Off Season

[planetmars]

George signed a 4 year max extension.. can't be traded until the off season now. Extend and trades are only good for 3 year contracts.

[Yuri Gagarin]

How about:

PG to Bucks
Lowry to Clippers
Giannis to Raps

Not bad but if Giannis wants to play here Id rather wait til next year. I really want to see Lowry play with Giannis not Fred thats just lame. Also want Lowry to retire here he deserves it.

[Yuri Gagarin]

George signed a 4 year max extension.. can't be traded until the off season now. Extend and trades are only good for 3 year contracts.

Ok thanks. Ya g98 DJ probably heard it from the cleaner on the elevator 😜

[Yuri Gagarin]

https://youtu.be/yMxdBXcvixk

[A.I]

Not sure the source but G98 fm just said theres rumours of lowry for george because kawhi wants lowry. Fuuuuk that!

If Kawhi wants Lowry, he can come back here.

[LJ2]

It's Giannis or bust for the Raptors. LeBron, Kawhi, PG....these guys were never going to sign here.

If Giannis re-signs in MIL, i still want to know what Plan B is? please don't say Oladipo, he's one of the most overrated players in the game. The next 2 best FA's after Giannis, LeBron and Kawhi are Lowry and Gobert.

I'd hope it involves a sign and trade of Lowry to a team trying to contend. No point wasting his last couple of good years if we aren't really competing for anything and we could probably get some picks or a young prospect for him.

[G__Deane]

It's Giannis or bust for the Raptors. LeBron, Kawhi, PG....these guys were never going to sign here.

If Giannis re-signs in MIL, i still want to know what Plan B is? please don't say Oladipo, he's one of the most overrated players in the game. The next 2 best FA's after Giannis, LeBron and Kawhi are Lowry and Gobert.

There is no plan B. There just isn't.
Other than try to win 50 games and crap shoot the playoffs.

[Jclaw]

There is no plan B. There just isn't.
Other than try to win 50 games and crap shoot the playoffs.

How can any fan of this team that has been led by Masai and Bobby think there is no plan B? Was Kawhi plan A?

[GOLDBLUM]

How can any fan of this team that has been led by Masai and Bobby think there is no plan B? Was Kawhi plan A?

Plan B: Sell franchise.

[TheWaterboy]

There is no plan B. There just isn't.
Other than try to win 50 games and crap shoot the playoffs.

Gobert is probably the plan B, much as some here hate the notion. Gobert/Siakam/OG/Van Vleet is enough of a core to keep Toronto an upper echelon team in the East, which is desirable for a team which is just too talented to go into full rebuild mode.

Gobert is by no means at the talent level of Giannis... but his contract will be movable for good pieces even at max salary if the fit isn't right.

I don't expect the Raptors to pursue Kawhi... but I expect them to listen if Kawhi shows an interest in returning. I see this as unlikely... but not impossible. The Clippers are very much the wrong fit for Kawhi from the perspective of winning in the playoffs; Kawhi needs to be top banana on the court but second banana in the locker room, and the Clippers seem to have no recognition of that. The problem with Kawhi returning, if he's willing, is that the Raptors would need to retain Kyle to be that team leader, and even with Lowry coming it at a lower salary, Kawhi would need to take a pay cut.

I don't think Kawhi is ready to take a pay cut to find the right fit. If he is, Miami (where Butler is ready to be the man and having Pat Riley around to run a tight ship) could be more likely to get him that we are.

Oladipo will need to really show out in Indiana this year (including demonstrating that he's fully healthy) and actually want to come to Toronto for us to show more than polite interest. We're really more structured for adding a 4 or a 5 than a 3, in my opinion, so while we may be prepared to talk, we'd want to know what our plan for our frontcourt would be before putting ink to paper. As with Kawhi, this would no doubt have the awareness of the front office but not be part of a plan per se.

I don't think Toronto moves off Lowry mid-season. There isn't a lot out there to trade him for at present (both in terms of talent and salary) that makes sense during the season. Resigning Lowry to a two year contract at the right price with the second year partially guaranteed is a good way to ensure that the team has an additional trade asset for further moves if Toronto does not sign its desired free agents, and I think the team considers this their in-case-of-emergency-break-glass option.

[inthepaint]

If Kawhi wants Lowry, he can come back here.

yeah, wanted Serge. wants Lowry, probably wants Norm (at least lots of clips fan do), may as well have stayed. Now he's gonna have to watch pat berverly run the pick n roll.

[LJ2]

Gobert is probably the plan B, much as some here hate the notion. Gobert/Siakam/OG/Van Vleet is enough of a core to keep Toronto an upper echelon team in the East, which is desirable for a team which is just too talented to go into full rebuild mode.

Gobert is by no means at the talent level of Giannis... but his contract will be movable for good pieces even at max salary if the fit isn't right.

I don't expect the Raptors to pursue Kawhi... but I expect them to listen if Kawhi shows an interest in returning. I see this as unlikely... but not impossible. The Clippers are very much the wrong fit for Kawhi from the perspective of winning in the playoffs; Kawhi needs to be top banana on the court but second banana in the locker room, and the Clippers seem to have no recognition of that. The problem with Kawhi returning, if he's willing, is that the Raptors would need to retain Kyle to be that team leader, and even with Lowry coming it at a lower salary, Kawhi would need to take a pay cut.

I don't think Kawhi is ready to take a pay cut to find the right fit. If he is, Miami (where Butler is ready to be the man and having Pat Riley around to run a tight ship) could be more likely to get him that we are.

Oladipo will need to really show out in Indiana this year (including demonstrating that he's fully healthy) and actually want to come to Toronto for us to show more than polite interest. We're really more structured for adding a 4 or a 5 than a 3, in my opinion, so while we may be prepared to talk, we'd want to know what our plan for our frontcourt would be before putting ink to paper. As with Kawhi, this would no doubt have the awareness of the front office but not be part of a plan per se.

I don't think Toronto moves off Lowry mid-season. There isn't a lot out there to trade him for at present (both in terms of talent and salary) that makes sense during the season. Resigning Lowry to a two year contract at the right price with the second year partially guaranteed is a good way to ensure that the team has an additional trade asset for further moves if Toronto does not sign its desired free agents, and I think the team considers this their in-case-of-emergency-break-glass option.

Yeah, I don't see a trade of Lowry mid-season either. They want him on board while the they make a pitch to Giannis and if they strike out I hope they do Lowry right and send him to a team that could possibly contend. There's also the option they may retain his services on a one or two year contract if the Raps surprise (again) this season and show they can still contend with the roster they have.

[planetmars]

I have this scary thought that popped into my head this morning. George can't be traded for a year, but now is locked up for 4 more years. Giannis enters free agency. Takes a meeting with LAC because his girlfriend is from there, they are contenders (have Kawhi), etc. LAC pitches a S&T with Milwaukee where George goes there, and LAC gets Giannis.

Milwaukee does that to get an all-star in return for Giannis but also is locked up for 4 years (they are not a free agent destination).

Serge comes back (has a player option).

Lowry enters free agency too, and goes to LA to play with Kawhi/Serge and Giannis, and to win another chip.

So Balmer steals Kawhi, then Serge, then Giannis and Kyle from Masai in back to back to back seasons.

[RandomGuy]

I have this scary thought that popped into my head this morning. George can't be traded for a year, but now is locked up for 4 more years. Giannis enters free agency. Takes a meeting with LAC because his girlfriend is from there, they are contenders (have Kawhi), etc. LAC pitches a S&T with Milwaukee where George goes there, and LAC gets Giannis.

Milwaukee does that to get an all-star in return for Giannis but also is locked up for 4 years (they are not a free agent destination).

Serge comes back (has a player option).

Lowry enters free agency too, and goes to LA to play with Kawhi/Serge and Giannis, and to win another chip.

So Balmer steals Kawhi, then Serge, then Giannis and Kyle from Masai in back to back to back seasons.

Worst nightmare, I don't see Giannis teaming up to form a super team, he's not that type of guy.

[Mitchell Duong]

yeah that sounds horrible and now I'm going to mentally prepare for it happening.