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Veteran depth for this year on a contract that has a best before date of 2020 seasons end. Its a fit.
Houston will want draft pick(s).
I bet they would look at this years second and possibly 2022s second as enough to move on from PJ.
Big upgrade on the RondaeHollis role .. to me anyway.
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Why does Toronto or Houston want to do this ?
PJ should be OK.. He moves from one zero state income tax location in Houston to another in Florida for the duration of his deal.
Who really knows whats going on in Houston. They are making the Vlade Divic Kings look smooth.
Webster and Ujiri get on the court help they can flip for more than they paid for or close to equal value at the trade deadline.
There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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S.R. wrote: View Post
This season will be telling, but at this moment + with the power of hindsight I'm wondering if Kawhi didn't have the perfect situations in SAS and TOR. Two deep, talented teams with great coaching and very strong, mature locker room leadership. He could slot in on those teams with top tier basketball skills. But he has major health concerns your team has to be deep enough to absorb and he appears to have major leadership deficiencies. I'm not sure if he'll adjust to do what he needs to do in the locker room in LA? Or will he continue to insist on his own special treatment? I'd wager on the latter and I'm not sure if he'll find that perfect situation again. Your 1A star usually has to help you build that and doesn't just get to parachute into it.
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Demographic Shift wrote: View PostVeteran depth for this year on a contract that has a best before date of 2020 seasons end. Its a fit.
Houston will want draft pick(s).
I bet they would look at this years second and possibly 2022s second as enough to move on from PJ.
Big upgrade on the RondaeHollis role .. to me anyway.
BUT
Why does Toronto or Houston want to do this ?
PJ should be OK.. He moves from one zero state income tax location in Houston to another in Florida for the duration of his deal.
Who really knows whats going on in Houston. They are making the Vlade Divic Kings look smooth.
Webster and Ujiri get on the court help they can flip for more than they paid for or close to equal value at the trade deadline.
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RandomGuy wrote: View Post
I'm not saying he's a #1 guy, he lacks shooting big time and that's why D'Antoni and his system was a bad fit. I'm not even talking about OKC, they allowed him to average triple-double in the first place, that's exactly my point, he hasn't played in one where he's managed properly.
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TrueTorontoFan wrote: View Post
honestly it would balance out our wing depth but i'd be fine either way.
No idea why houston would want to do this for draft picks.. somebody has to play with harden if you want him to change his mind and play in houston.There's no such thing as a 2nd round bust.
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S.R. wrote: View Post
This season will be telling, but at this moment + with the power of hindsight I'm wondering if Kawhi didn't have the perfect situations in SAS and TOR. Two deep, talented teams with great coaching and very strong, mature locker room leadership. He could slot in on those teams with top tier basketball skills. But he has major health concerns your team has to be deep enough to absorb and he appears to have major leadership deficiencies. I'm not sure if he'll adjust to do what he needs to do in the locker room in LA? Or will he continue to insist on his own special treatment? I'd wager on the latter and I'm not sure if he'll find that perfect situation again. Your 1A star usually has to help you build that and doesn't just get to parachute into it.
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S.R. wrote: View Post
This season will be telling, but at this moment + with the power of hindsight I'm wondering if Kawhi didn't have the perfect situations in SAS and TOR. Two deep, talented teams with great coaching and very strong, mature locker room leadership. He could slot in on those teams with top tier basketball skills. But he has major health concerns your team has to be deep enough to absorb and he appears to have major leadership deficiencies. I'm not sure if he'll adjust to do what he needs to do in the locker room in LA? Or will he continue to insist on his own special treatment? I'd wager on the latter and I'm not sure if he'll find that perfect situation again. Your 1A star usually has to help you build that and doesn't just get to parachute into it.
He went from that to Pat Beverly, Zubac and a coach that's no longer there. I don't care how good any individual player is, it will always be a team sport. There's a reason Lebron missed the playoff for the first time in 100 years before AD went to the Lakers, and why AD himself on it's own with the Pelicans only made the playoffs once. People always drool about supertstars but if there's no team foundation with them it's just empty glitter.
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
I commented on this right when Kawhi left and the Clips roster started to take shape. He's a great player, but as a wing, he's always had the the luxury to play with extremely high BBIQ point guards, centres and coaches, all perfectly complementing his game: Ginobli, prime Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, Kyle Lowry, Marc Gasol (back when he still remembered where the basket was), Nick Nurse and Greg Poppovich.
He went from that to Pat Beverly, Zubac and a coach that's no longer there. I don't care how good any individual player is, it will always be a team sport. There's a reason Lebron missed the playoff for the first time in 100 years before AD went to the Lakers, and why AD himself on it's own with the Pelicans only made the playoffs once. People always drool about supertstars but if there's no team foundation with them it's just empty glitter.
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G__Deane wrote: View Post
Hard to get there without multiple superstars too which was the real problem for lebron in year 1 LA and AD on Pels
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inthepaint wrote: View Post
I don't think you necessarily need multiple superstars (though that sure helps), but you need 1 + an elite team to win it. That was the case for the Pre-durant Warriors, Lebron's Cavs, some of the Spurs teams, 2011 Mavs, and us in 2019. 1 or 2 superstars with a crap roster/coach is not gonna win.
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Clippers' Serge Ibaka: 'I never thought I would leave the Raptors'
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...leave-raptors/
"When I said I wanted to stay with the Raptors, it was true. But last minute, things change," he said. "People see things differently."
If I had to read into it, I think the rumours of the Raps offering Serge more money on a one year deal were true.
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G__Deane wrote: View PostClippers' Serge Ibaka: 'I never thought I would leave the Raptors'
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article...leave-raptors/
"When I said I wanted to stay with the Raptors, it was true. But last minute, things change," he said. "People see things differently."
If I had to read into it, I think the rumours of the Raps offering Serge more money on a one year deal were true.
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golden wrote: View Post
Paying Fred made us lose Serge and then Kyle next year. Hope he’s worth it.
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I don't totally get this tbh. Serge seemed pretty upset in his presser yesterday. He was that bothered by $12m offer vs $9m+$9m offer? I mean Toronto literally offered him more money to play basketball next year in a situation he apparently loved. LA offered him an extra year (not a 3 or 4 year deal) - a year in which Kawhi and PG might not be there and Serge might be using his PO to decide if he wants to be on a lottery team with Lou Williams or not? That's what ticked him off and forced a last second recalibration?
Does that not totally add up got anyone else? What am I missing. If he stayed in Toronto, he'd sign another contract next summer. He'd still be good. Gasol wasn't going to be here. He'd have probably been starting."We're playing in a building." -- Kawhi Leonard
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