Everything Off Season

[MixxAOR]

Wasn't Howard the most athletic center at that time?

Howard insisted on posting up when he should've became Championship Lakers Howard.

[nba_4_life]

Harden and wood look like a killer combo. Both have 20+ at half time. Maybe instead of pairing him with a Ball dominant PG they should have tried an athletic energy big man all along

Wasn't Howard the most athletic center at that time?

[bertarapsfan]

Harden and wood look like a killer combo. Both have 20+ at half time. Maybe instead of pairing him with a Ball dominant PG they should have tried an athletic energy big man all along

[G__Deane]

Absolutely, but why would Houston ever do it?

Harden just needs to be an idiot for a few more games lol

[S.R.]

Harden for Lowry straight up ......

Absolutely, but why would Houston ever do it?

[G__Deane]

Rumors are starting 2 Percolate around Kyle Lowry..it's starting and not even few games in..

Harden for Lowry straight up ......

[Dr Hannibal Lecter]

Rumors are starting 2 Percolate around Kyle Lowry..it's starting and not even few games in..

[G__Deane]

Everytime there's a pause in a game I see Zion just walking and lumbering. He definately is too heavy

Fat or not, he's too heavy in the long term

[MixxAOR]

Everytime there's a pause in a game I see Zion just walking and lumbering. He definately is too heavy

[JawsGT]

Zion is definitely not in nba game shape. Alot of these guys a ripped and zion clearly isnt. His fitness could certainly improve, and no doubt that would make such a more effective player. He cant rely on strength and explosiveness alone. He needs some work

[chris]

I just think it shows he's got the body type to balloon up after too much time off or injury if he doesn't stay dedicated. Just like fat-Joel and Charles.

fair enough. he's not unique in that respect though, i don't think. a ton of athletes swell up after their playing days because they are used to taking in a shit-ton of calories, and they balloon when they fail to match that caloric intake to their former training regimen.

i've not seen zion in the top photo actually on the court all that much was my point. he usually looks like the guy on the bottom. i think he gets a bit of a bum wrap around these parts is all.

[G__Deane]

yeah i'm not too sure what to make of that bottom photo you've posted, except to say that i'd love to one day look as fat as zion appears to you there.

i have google image searched "fat zion" too, and the top one of him on the bench in the bubble after an extended injury layoff is the worst i could find. luka a few days ago still looks much worse to me. when zion's on the court he usually looks like the bottom photo.

I just think it shows he's got the body type to balloon up after too much time off or injury if he doesn't stay dedicated. Just like fat-Joel and Charles.

[chris]

Triplets!

yeah i'm not too sure what to make of that bottom photo you've posted, except to say that i'd love to one day look as fat as zion appears to you there.

i have google image searched "fat zion" too, and the top one of him on the bench in the bubble after an extended injury layoff is the worst i could find. luka a few days ago still looks much worse to me. when zion's on the court he usually looks like the bottom photo.

[Kagemusha]

One big problem you could see last night was the Warriors new guys couldnt find Curry for those relocation shots. Curry would give up the ball and go to relocate inside then back out to the perimeter like we are used to. The new guys would wait till he was back on the 3 pt line to try and pass and it was too late. Klay, Draymond and Iggy would be able to predict where steph was going and pass the ball while he was moving to his spot. Draymond will be able to do that when he comes back, if your a warriors fan you just gotta home oubre, wiggins and wiseman can pick up on that.

You mean high IQ players which Wiggins, Oubre and the new ones aren't.
Smart observation, bro.

[G__Deane]

sure. all i was saying is that zion's injury risk has more to do with his explosiveness at his size, which puts a ton of strain on his body when he jumps/lands/cuts. he can be in the best shape in the world and still be a high injury risk, like bo jackson was. he takes a ton of shit but he's never looked particularly out of shape to me.

meanwhile luka can show up to camp comically out of shape with no risk of injury because he's not that type of athlete. he can just amble around the court slowly, like pre-bubble joker. apparently he's modeled more of his game after harden than just the step-back 3 and sky-high useage:

Triplets!